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Traumer
May 29 2015 at 07:53
10 posts
ddr555 posted:
Lastly I noticed IC Markets also not a True ECN broker. I compared spreads of Inter bank rate and IC Markets and found very wide difference. My many trades were stopped out by IC Markets last week whereas same trades with same climates were not stopped out by other broker like LMAX

Forex is a decentralized market. Just saying :)
oshaban (oshaban)
May 29 2015 at 08:30
190 posts
Forex21 posted:

@ Mr. Sami Ramzi, aka ramzisami, aka oshaban
We helped you to purchase the EA for a discounted price and provided you with the installation file and all necessary information to use the system profitable. You decided that the agreed terms and conditions are not valid for you and promised to post all sort of false claims if we do not process the refund for you. I have to admit you showed great creativity (using multiple user names etc..). However, as I wrote you personally, this does not change our terms and conditions.

General speaking I would like to remind everybody that forex trading involves high risk. That’s why “slow and steady profits” are the name of the game. Going for as high as possible monthly profits without caring enough about the risk is not working. It never did and I guess it is safe to say that it never will. Doing it anyway leads always to the same result. Losses! And yes, I am well aware that it is easy and comfortable to say “The broker is guilty, the software was guilty, the signal provider…., the internet provider….., the market went crazy ….”, but the truth is that every trader is responsible by himself for his actions.

@Forex21
You're always escape away from admitting that my main point is that I can't trust your service and rely on it because you treat me badly as you replied to me after 9 days from payment date !!! ... This point made me to refuse using your EA ... and even not to download it.

Why you didn't go straight to the point and tell the people here about your excuses about such huge delay ... What's going in your mind?

Also, why you didn't reply to my Skype chat requests while you are already Online ... (I have the proof as well if you like me to show ... everything is documented at my PC.

Is that because I paid by Skrill ? You have to treat people as humans, not as $$$ ...

Can I, one day, rely on your - supposed to be promptly - help desk to solve any problem for me if I start trading using your EA?
This is the main point for me.

Such delay and ignorance for me, made me to not trust you and your product ...

If you want to reply, and want to give any evidences :) please don't forget to tell (all here) why such delay ...

Am I right to think this way?

The attached image shows your scandal ...



Attachments:

... oshaban ... skype: oshaban27 ...
FXtrader2010
May 29 2015 at 08:47
724 posts
ddr555 posted:
Lastly I noticed IC Markets also not a True ECN broker. I compared spreads of Inter bank rate and IC Markets and found very wide difference. My many trades were stopped out by IC Markets last week whereas same trades with same climates were not stopped out by other broker like LMAX
What are you talking about here, stopped out on what? You comparing two totally different things? Inter bank rate spread? This is retail forex, no such thing. We get best price across variety of liquidity providers, UBS, Citi, JP etc. Just because you got stopped out one time doesn't really mean much. Hard to say what you are comparing though. Like if your account was 50k + and you trading with 100pip + SL and the spread widened to say 50+ pips then you probably getting fucked. But 20 pip SL that is just noise.
RedRhinoLab
May 29 2015 at 09:04
631 posts
@Forex21 I still don't understand or see any safety features in your marti grid. Your low risk account shows no such feature. Only accounts with 1000:1 can survive which no ECN broker can offer. We have to play with market makers which is a shame.





RedRhinoLab
May 29 2015 at 09:12
631 posts
oshaban posted:

@Forex21
You're always escape away from admitting that my main point is that I can't trust your service and rely on it because you treat me badly as you replied to me after 9 days from payment date !!! ...



https://www.forex21.com/terms-and-conditions/

 Its because after 10 days, you can't get your money back.
Forex21
May 29 2015 at 09:28
416 posts
@RedRhinoLab

Yep, that's a great example of what happen if you believe just once that you know better than the market. Trading would have been stopped at minus 30% but as I knew better i got some 'really bad eggs' at the end.


@oshaban
We explained you why there was a delay, and offered you to help you with all your questions. Again, should you have any questions, please contact our support desk at any time.


oshaban (oshaban)
May 29 2015 at 09:46
190 posts
@RedRhinoLab
Actually, I paid by Skrill ... They claim Skrill payment is not refundable according to their rules for ripping money from clients! but the thing is that they completely neglect to learn how to do the right of marketing for their products and learn the basic rules of the client rights and even how to satisfy clients to make them a returning buyers again and again. They need some courses of Developments of Communications skills, How to market your product the fair way and may be How to respect your clients and make them returning buyers for every product of yours.
According to your previous posted image for their Low Risk account, I think they must add the good product too to their service as PoweFlow EA is failed.

Thanks God that I'm growing up and I have been wise to not use their EA(s).


@Forex21 I told you before, I just want to see my money back to my Skrill account. That is fair enough. My dignity forbidding me to contact you again. It is enough of ignorance that I got from you. It may be will cost me $188. But dignity is much much expensive than that. You can contact me if you want, but I will not. So, you exactly know what I want :)
Good luck in your next series of Low Risk products ...
... oshaban ... skype: oshaban27 ...
Steven (steven_loco)
May 29 2015 at 11:47
11 posts
@oshaban

Offers managed account services, shows potential clients a few screenshots of low quality back tests and demo accounts. Complains when a vendor sticks to agreed terms and conditions.

Thank you for making me laugh a lot. 😁

oshaban (oshaban)
May 29 2015 at 12:31
190 posts
@steven_loco
I don't care about your opinion as long as my clients are happy and my monthly commission is good to make me living on forex business :)
... oshaban ... skype: oshaban27 ...
Remind_later
May 29 2015 at 20:02
24 posts
I own several products from Forex21 and can say only good things about them. Nope, I am not rich yet but I am to old to search for magic beans.

@oshaban
Your screenshot tells me that they communicated with you absolutely normal. The way you are try to force them to refund you is really not ok. There terms say clearly that they do not offer refunds for orders not processed through there payment processor. So, if you are unhappy with the situation you can only blame yourself.

As you wrote that you are in the process of growing up, I am certain that you will be fine. I guess 😎
Bastian789
May 29 2015 at 20:02
2 posts
I would suggest that myfxbook show all the blocked numbers or users anyway
oshaban (oshaban)
May 29 2015 at 21:16
190 posts
@Remind_later
You really made me say sorry for you ...
After showing you that proof, you still saying they communicating with me the normal way !!!.
You may be forgot to wear your glasses or defending on Forex21 to get some discount on the next Very Low Risk EA.
Take a rest please!.
Have a nice weekend.
... oshaban ... skype: oshaban27 ...
ahmedfouad
Jun 05 2015 at 19:00
198 posts
This guy blocked me from posting on his page....!!!

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/fx_expert/insta-forex/1148287

https://mt5fxrobot.com/

I got him...! He is selling an arbitrage EA for 2,000 USD dollars..

All accounts showing on their myfxbook are the same as the one their main website and they DEMO.

They claimed on the discussion page that they are their customer's accounts and it's privacy protection...!!! llloooolll

I bought their EA from someone who got it from them... it's working perfectly only on demo...I lost with it on real account....If any interested just contact me and I will make a huge discount....90% discount...!!!!!!

It's working very well on demo account.....That's it...


CrazyTraderfx (CrazyTrader)
Jun 05 2015 at 19:03
1718 posts
ahmedfouad posted:
This guy blocked me from posting on his page....!!!

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/fx_expert/insta-forex/1148287

https://mt5fxrobot.com/

I got him...! He is selling an arbitrage EA for 2,000 USD dollars..

All accounts showing on their myfxbook are the same as the one their main website and they DEMO.

They claimed on the discussion page that they are their customer's accounts and it's privacy protection...!!! llloooolll

I bought their EA from someone who got it from them... it's working perfectly only demo...I lost with it on real account....If any interested just contact me and I will make a huge discount....80% discount...!!!!!!

It's working very well on demo account.....That's it...



Lol... Some guys can sell robots for $2,000 that doesn't work while I offer mine for $500.... It's time to change my price! $10,000 !!!
ahmedfouad
Jun 05 2015 at 19:06
198 posts
CrazyTrader posted:
ahmedfouad posted:
This guy blocked me from posting on his page....!!!

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/fx_expert/insta-forex/1148287

https://mt5fxrobot.com/

I got him...! He is selling an arbitrage EA for 2,000 USD dollars..

All accounts showing on their myfxbook are the same as the one their main website and they DEMO.

They claimed on the discussion page that they are their customer's accounts and it's privacy protection...!!! llloooolll

I bought their EA from someone who got it from them... it's working perfectly only demo...I lost with it on real account....If any interested just contact me and I will make a huge discount....80% discount...!!!!!!

It's working very well on demo account.....That's it...



Lol... Some guys can sell robots for $2,000 that doesn't work while I offer mine for $500.... It's time to change my price! $10,000 !!![/quote


Mine is cheaper than yours...!! only 200 USD...!!!! LLLOOLLL
CrazyTraderfx (CrazyTrader)
Jun 05 2015 at 20:03
1718 posts
ahmedfouad posted:
Mine is cheaper than yours...!! only 200 USD...!!!! LLLOOLLL

Who wants to click on it? 😀



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ahmedfouad
Jun 05 2015 at 20:21
198 posts
CrazyTrader posted:
ahmedfouad posted:
Mine is cheaper than yours...!! only 200 USD...!!!! LLLOOLLL

Who wants to click on it? 😀



llooll
FXtrader2010
Jun 06 2015 at 21:05
724 posts
CrazyTrader posted:
ahmedfouad posted:
Mine is cheaper than yours...!! only 200 USD...!!!! LLLOOLLL

Who wants to click on it? 😀


people will buy this, not lying to you. If it was marketed the right way, you could get people to buy. Even just one ! lol but that is not the point.
suttos
Jun 19 2015 at 01:54
272 posts
Another latency arb system for sale for $1500. When i pointed out that he wont be able to withdraw his money from his real account, he blocked me

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/ammyscalper/ammy-scalper-real-account/1282510
FXtrader2010
Jun 19 2015 at 04:08
724 posts
suttos posted:
Another latency arb system for sale for $1500. When i pointed out that he wont be able to withdraw his money from his real account, he blocked me

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/ammyscalper/ammy-scalper-real-account/1282510
YEAH this one is just ridiculous! You have to be a complete noob or drunk to buy this garbage! Scalping on a demo account ?! LOL
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