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Cash Cow Signal (By Cash_Cow )

Gain : +1570.29%
Drawdown 20.98%
Pips: -9020.1
Trades 9857
Won:
Lost:
Type: Real
Leverage: 1:200
Trading: Unknown

Cash Cow Signal Discussion

Cash_Cow
Mar 08 2016 at 12:19
39 posts
Hello,

We were trading our signal account more aggressively than normal for the first 2 weeks.

In all honesty we did this to attract more attention to our trading system and to show others it is able to maintain low drawdown even when over-traded. We are now trading with our standard risk, which is conservative.

regards,

CC
The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent.
Cash_Cow
Mar 08 2016 at 12:31
39 posts
Our Cash Cow Signal uses two different strategies. A manual strategy and a Mean Reversion algo.

We had an existing account with IC Markets that we funded with $50,000. We mostly used it for the final stages of testing. At the beginning of 2016 we started copying the algo trades to this account.

Here is a link: https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Cash_Cow/keystone-pamm/1544815

This account is now used as a PAMM account we call our Keystone PAMM. It will receive all the trades that the Cash Cow Signal receives, plus one additional strategy. It is currently offered through IC Markets with a $500 minimum to join and no subscription fee.

regards,

CC
The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent.
ahmedfouad
Mar 08 2016 at 13:59
198 posts
Cash_Cow posted:
Hello,

We were trading our signal account more aggressively than normal for the first 2 weeks.

In all honesty we did this to attract more attention to our trading system and to show others it is able to maintain low drawdown even when over-traded. We are now trading with our standard risk, which is conservative.

regards,

CC

Thanks for the information.
But if i subscribe, i need it aggressive as you are showing.

You should then make two accounts free for subscriber's choice, one conservative and one aggressive.

How do you like the idea?

Regards
Cash_Cow
Mar 08 2016 at 14:06
39 posts
Hello Ahmedfouad,

The nice thing about signal trading is, you pick your own risk. So if you want higher returns, you can use a lot multiplier. I would not recommend using risk higher than 3X, but that is up to you.

regards,

CC

The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent.
des12
Mar 08 2016 at 15:03
30 posts
FXtrader2010 posted:
I am pretty sure this is a cent account. Too bad its only on simple trader.
Yes most likely as all Fort Fs accounts I have seen are cent accounts, still to grow a $50 account to $500 is impressive. Good that it's verified though and history is open and trade duration shows it's not a abitrage system. all good points. maybe worth a small amount to follow...
Cash_Cow
Mar 08 2016 at 15:08
39 posts
des12 posted:
FXtrader2010 posted:
I am pretty sure this is a cent account. Too bad its only on simple trader.
Yes most likely as all Fort Fs accounts I have seen are cent accounts, still to grow a $50 account to $500 is impressive. Good that it's verified though and history is open and trade duration shows it's not a abitrage system. all good points. maybe worth a small amount to follow...

I also would like to point out we have approximately $57,000 of our own money connected to our Keystone PAMM with IC Markets, which is run with our Cash Cow strategy. So we do trust our system with our own money.



regards,

CC
The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent.
FXtrader2010
Mar 08 2016 at 15:17
724 posts
Cash_Cow posted:
des12 posted:
FXtrader2010 posted:
I am pretty sure this is a cent account. Too bad its only on simple trader.
Yes most likely as all Fort Fs accounts I have seen are cent accounts, still to grow a $50 account to $500 is impressive. Good that it's verified though and history is open and trade duration shows it's not a abitrage system. all good points. maybe worth a small amount to follow...

I also would like to point out we have approximately $57,000 of our own money connected to our Keystone PAMM with IC Markets, which is run with our Cash Cow strategy. So we do trust our system with our own money.



regards,

CC
This is very good! I am happy to see this, I have nothing critical to say, but best wishes to you and keep up the good work!
Cash_Cow
Mar 08 2016 at 15:31
39 posts
Thank you FXtrader2010

We will continue to build history.

Happy Trading,

CC
The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent.
MariMamiMadoka
Mar 12 2016 at 09:58
1 posts
Do you trade big market moving events like the recent ECB rate release and press conference?

I would imagine movements like that would cause some trouble
Cash_Cow
Mar 12 2016 at 13:41
39 posts
You are correct. Mean Reversion and Central Bankers manipulating the market do not mix. So when Central Bankers play, we go away...


We started trading again on Friday.

regards,

CC
The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent.
Cash_Cow
Mar 14 2016 at 14:09
39 posts
There have been a few individuals who have requested we offer Cash Cow Signal through mql5.

We decided to give mql5 signals a go for a few months and see how it works for us. Feel free to try it out and give us feedback.

mql5.com/en/signals/175762

regards,

CC
The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent.
FXtrader2010
Mar 14 2016 at 19:01
724 posts
Cash_Cow posted:
There have been a few individuals who have requested we offer Cash Cow Signal through mql5.

We decided to give mql5 signals a go for a few months and see how it works for us. Feel free to try it out and give us feedback.

mql5.com/en/signals/175762

regards,

CC
wow, thank you! I am going to give this a try
Cash_Cow
Mar 14 2016 at 19:13
39 posts
We are glad to have you trade with us!

regards,

CC
The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent.
Alexz80
Mar 15 2016 at 04:55
131 posts
I want to ask about initial deposit minimum for follow your signal at mql5.com. Please advise. Thanks.
Cash_Cow
Mar 15 2016 at 14:07
39 posts
Hello,

Are you using a standard account that allows micro lots? Or a cent account? What risk do you want to trade with? Same risk as our Cash Cow Signal account? Or something higher?

regards,

CC
The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent.
Alexz80
Mar 15 2016 at 14:10
131 posts
Standard account with micro lots. can open 0.01, not cent account ECN. That's why i want to know the best for minimum. What kind of your trading system not martingale right?
ahmedfouad
Mar 15 2016 at 14:14
198 posts
if i want to trade 500 $ for your signal on mql5 at highest risk? what would the starting lot size opened automatically and and what would be expected monthly return?
Cash_Cow
Mar 15 2016 at 14:16
39 posts
Hello,

A standard account that can place micro lots is perfect for Cash Cow. We recommend having at least $6,000 to trade Cash Cow using our signal assuming you are okay with risk that is higher than normal. If you do not have $6,000, then a cent account or joining our PAMM is the best option.

Regarding your question about having a martingale element: When Cash Cow receives confirmation that a currency pair is overbought or oversold, we like to layer our entry over more than one trade. We have found this to be superior to placing one large trade. So it is common that we will have many small trades in a zone we expect a reversion to the mean. If the currency pair breaks past our anticipated reversal zone, we will place a few trades with a larger lot size at key handles to try once again catch the reversal.

As a safer way to control risk, we set a floating drawdown limit of 3% up to 4.5%, depending on which strategy we are using. This is superior to using a Stop Loss in the sense that you could be trading more than one pair and therefore have more than one consecutive stop-loss. Monitoring the floating drawdown and setting a limit eliminates the possibility of having multiple pairs take a loss that would result in a total loss that is higher than what we feel is acceptable. This style of risk management allows us to set a monthly loss limit of 7% with standard risk. This is true for both our Cash Cow signal and Keystone PAMM. If we ever hit a total loss of 7% in one month, we will discontinue trading until the following month, which is probably a good idea because for whatever reason the market will not be ideal for our trading method and taking a little time off isn't a bad idea.


regards,

CC
The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent.
Cash_Cow
Mar 15 2016 at 14:21
39 posts
ahmedfouad posted:
if i want to trade 500 $ for your signal on mql5 at highest risk? what would the starting lot size opened automatically and and what would be expected monthly return?

You would receive trades of 0.01 lots or larger. If you are talking about $500 on a Standard Account, then your return would be crazy high, BUT you could lose your account. If we have a 4.5% loss (largest single loss we will allow), that would translate into a 90% loss for a $500 account...

So if it is play money, then sure, you can trade with us, we seldom have losses of 4.5%, but they WILL happen at least one or two times a year.

I hope this information is helpful.

regards,

CC
The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent.
Cash_Cow
Mar 17 2016 at 13:37
39 posts
Very Dovish FOMC. We will not be shorting the EURUSD anytime soon. Very pleased we closed our EURUSD shorts before FOMC and ECB...

Happy trading everyone!

regards,

CC
The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent.
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