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Cash Cow Signal (By Cash_Cow )

Gain : +1570.29%
Drawdown 20.98%
Pips: -9020.1
Trades 9857
Won:
Lost:
Type: Real
Leverage: 1:200
Trading: Unknown

Cash Cow Signal Discussion

Md Didarul Alam (didarsd)
Mar 25 2016 at 06:54
70 posts
hi ..
Anybody use this signal....if update will be helpful...
Frank
RedRhinoFX
Mar 25 2016 at 10:54
395 posts
I was interested in their service but after a few questions I found out its ForexEnvy , then FXZEN, now Cash Cow... all from cornerstone investment group. Maybe you know them.

It is a martingale Grid system with equity protection. They hide the lotsize for that reason.





Ozzie Matt (aeronthomas)
Mar 25 2016 at 10:56
1557 posts
Thanks Frank I too was interested but now I know it's a martingale will stay away. Cheers
Cash_Cow
Mar 27 2016 at 13:44
39 posts
That is absolutely untrue. We are NOT a martingale. This is evident by looking at our positive trading expectancy and very limited risk.

We do scale risk to enter trades. This is when a trader places many smaller trades in a zone they feel the probability of a retracement is high. We find this to be superior vs one large trade.

If you have questions, just ask us. RedRhinoFX (AKA Frank) is selling a competing signal, so his motives for deception are clear. He enjoys going to other threads and trying to trash other signal providers to make his own system look better.

How about we let the trading do the talking Frank? Who has better risk management? Who has better performance?

I say we let the public decide. There is no reason to stock other vendors and try and deceive people by saying things that are not true. Shame on you.


CC
The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent.
Cash_Cow
Mar 27 2016 at 13:46
39 posts
didarsd posted:
hi ..
Anybody use this signal....if update will be helpful...

Hello,

We have a lot of subs through www.signalstart.com and www.mql5.com

I think there is one review from a sub on www.mql5.com.

regards,

CC
The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent.
FXtrader2010
Mar 28 2016 at 01:58
724 posts
I am subscribed to this signal and the management is excellent! The losses are cut to avoid from going into massive DD and I have made really easy money on this only two weeks in. The author has since increased the subscription price and I think I will be continuing as the signal does use a stoploss and is managed tightly so it doesn't get out of hand.
Cash_Cow
Mar 28 2016 at 02:31
39 posts
Thank you for your kind words. We really do our best to maximize gains and keep drawdown in check.

Hopefully we can finish the month strong!

best regards,

CC
The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent.
Frank
RedRhinoFX
Mar 28 2016 at 05:59
395 posts
That is untrue, mister Cow. I was interested but I can't invest in martingale system. You increase risk, adding to losers, and it's most dangerous strategy. Everyone know that. Open your lotsizes and others can see the lot progression. but please don't mislead people. I see that as too often.
Md Didarul Alam (didarsd)
Mar 28 2016 at 12:14
70 posts
Cash_Cow
Mar 28 2016 at 13:25
39 posts
Mr. Rhino. I have no idea why the concept of scaling is so difficult for you to accept as a fund manager. I have attached an image of the EURUSD 1 hour time chart. As you can see there is some lines drawn in blue for some possible entry points. Lets say a trader wants to SHORT the EURUSD. He has an account with $20,000 and is willing to risk a maximum of 5% of his account. He can place a 1.0 lot sell trade at one of those blue lines OR he could place a 0.25 lot trade at each one of those blue lines (four trades total). If all trades trigger, he will have a total of 1.0 lot of exposure. This is the same as if he were to place one large trade for 1.0 lots.





Keep in mind both entry strategies will be using a fixed risk of 5% in this example. So they are risking THE EXACT SAME WITH FOUR TRADES OR ONE TRADE. THEY JUST USE A DIFFERENT STRATEGY FOR ENTRY.

Does the strategy of using four trades at 0.25 lots (total of 1.0 lots) any different from a RISK MANAGEMENT PERSPECTIVE than one large trade of 1.0 lots if both are risking 5%???

The answer is no.
They are risking the same. The only difference is the second entry strategy is using SCALING to enter the EURUSD short.

Does this mean that Scaling is the same as Grid trading???

The answer once again is no.

The trader is simply using an alternative entry strategy that spreads risk over several entry points vs one large position. The concept is not so complicated and has benefits. I invite you to try this Rhino. Just stop going from forum to forum and trolling us by calling us a grid. Its unprofessional as a vendor.


CC

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Cash_Cow
Mar 28 2016 at 13:31
39 posts
didarsd posted:
lot size should open

Just so you know, we do very lot size depending on the objective of the trade. The one constant is our risk management. We tolerate a maximum of 4.5% floating drawdown before closing all open positions and a maximum of 7% monthly risk.

regards,

CC
The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent.
FXtrader2010
Mar 28 2016 at 18:39
724 posts
Cash_Cow posted:


Keep in mind both entry strategies will be using a fixed risk of 5% in this example. So they are risking THE EXACT SAME WITH FOUR TRADES OR ONE TRADE. THEY JUST USE A DIFFERENT STRATEGY FOR ENTRY.

Does the strategy of using four trades at 0.25 lots (total of 1.0 lots) any different from a RISK MANAGEMENT PERSPECTIVE than one large trade of 1.0 lots if both are risking 5%???

The answer is no.
They are risking the same. The only difference is the second entry strategy is using SCALING to enter the EURUSD short.

Does this mean that Scaling is the same as Grid trading???

The answer once again is no.


YES, as long as one defines what their RISK is aka where they will get out if it doesn't work out.. That is all that matters.

Judging by the SHARPE ratio and the avg loss size to avg win, Id say its pretty good!

I think everyone has their own style and what works for some people doesn't work for others.
Ozzie Matt (aeronthomas)
Mar 29 2016 at 06:18
1557 posts
FXtrader2010 posted:
I am subscribed to this signal and the management is excellent! The losses are cut to avoid from going into massive DD and I have made really easy money on this only two weeks in. The author has since increased the subscription price and I think I will be continuing as the signal does use a stoploss and is managed tightly so it doesn't get out of hand.

thanks for the review
FXtrader2010
Mar 29 2016 at 07:06
724 posts
aeronthomas posted:
FXtrader2010 posted:
I am subscribed to this signal and the management is excellent! The losses are cut to avoid from going into massive DD and I have made really easy money on this only two weeks in. The author has since increased the subscription price and I think I will be continuing as the signal does use a stoploss and is managed tightly so it doesn't get out of hand.

thanks for the review
It is still early to say, but I have seen and sub'ed a lot of signals , most of them are shit but this guy, as long as he can keep discipline really has something here I think.
Cash_Cow
Mar 30 2016 at 15:29
39 posts
The last 24 hours have been difficult for us because of the strong movements in the USD. We set a new drawdown high last night of 1.7%. We have been able to reduce the drawdown to under 0.5% as of now and reduced some exposure. We were not expecting Yellen to be so dovish and it caught us a little off guard.

Sorry to the subs who just joined us! We usually trade better than this.

take care everyone!

CC
The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent.
Cash_Cow
Apr 01 2016 at 02:53
39 posts
We successfully closed all our open trades for a very nice profit! Very nice finish for March.

Happy trading!

regards,

CC
The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent.
johndoe2016
Apr 03 2016 at 06:21
58 posts
What's the price for subscription and how can I use this at IC Markets?

I already have an account there?
jamshidz
Apr 03 2016 at 12:51
11 posts
Cash_Cow posted:
Our Cash Cow Signal uses two different strategies. A manual strategy and a Mean Reversion algo.

We had an existing account with IC Markets that we funded with $50,000. We mostly used it for the final stages of testing. At the beginning of 2016 we started copying the algo trades to this account.

Here is a link: https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Cash_Cow/keystone-pamm/1544815

This account is now used as a PAMM account we call our Keystone PAMM. It will receive all the trades that the Cash Cow Signal receives, plus one additional strategy. It is currently offered through IC Markets with a $500 minimum to join and no subscription fee.

regards,

CC

You are saying with the normal risk ratio, you will make a consistent 5% profit a month... i can see in your PAMM account the profit rate has reached to 5% only once in the past 4 months.

Can you express something on this !? Can we conclude that even the mentioned 5% is not confirmed?
Cash_Cow
Apr 03 2016 at 13:20
39 posts
johndoe2016 posted:
What's the price for subscription and how can I use this at IC Markets?

I already have an account there?

Hello,

We have a PAMM with IC Markets. They are a great broker.
If you would like to receive our trading signal, it is a flat rate of $75 per month. The PAMM is a 25% equity based performance fee.

regards,

CC
The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent.
Cash_Cow
Apr 03 2016 at 13:25
39 posts
jamshidz posted:
Cash_Cow posted:
Our Cash Cow Signal uses two different strategies. A manual strategy and a Mean Reversion algo.

We had an existing account with IC Markets that we funded with $50,000. We mostly used it for the final stages of testing. At the beginning of 2016 we started copying the algo trades to this account.

Here is a link: https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Cash_Cow/keystone-pamm/1544815

This account is now used as a PAMM account we call our Keystone PAMM. It will receive all the trades that the Cash Cow Signal receives, plus one additional strategy. It is currently offered through IC Markets with a $500 minimum to join and no subscription fee.

regards,

CC

You are saying with the normal risk ratio, you will make a consistent 5% profit a month... i can see in your PAMM account the profit rate has reached to 5% only once in the past 4 months.

Can you express something on this !? Can we conclude that even the mentioned 5% is not confirmed?

Hello,

We are adding a few new strategies that should boost our average return from just over 4% to around 5% monthly using standard risk.

Last month trading was a bit slow due to all the major news announcements. We had to be cautious with our Mean Reversion strategy with the FED and ECB.

regards,

CC
The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent.
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