Funnel Trader IC (By ryang123)

Gain : +463.61%
Drawdown 86.76%
Pips: 9100.7
Trades 8039
Won:
Lost:
Type: Real
Leverage: 1:200
Trading: Automated

Funnel Trader IC Discussion

Nov 14, 2016 at 02:53
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Member Since Sep 03, 2016   31 posts
Mar 20, 2017 at 08:01
Did you manually closed some of the trades? Funnel Trader shouldn't close trades when losses happen.
Member Since Sep 23, 2016   85 posts
Mar 26, 2017 at 01:22
Yes I did but I no longer do. it is not necessary at all
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Member Since Sep 23, 2016   85 posts
Aug 26, 2017 at 18:50
Not sure what is going on with MYFXBOOK calculations but it is wrong. I only had one big loss (about $100) and its because I accidentally opened two trades on the wrong account (AUDJPY). I am trying to keep this account for funnel trader only which only closes in a loss in extreme slippage.
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Member Since Sep 03, 2016   31 posts
Aug 28, 2017 at 06:18
ICmarkets is not quite good for Funnel. Because its swop rate is too high(of course it's lower than most popular brokers). Best way to trade funnel is use swop-free brokers(is account).
Member Since Sep 03, 2016   31 posts
Aug 28, 2017 at 06:18
swap rate
Member Since Sep 03, 2016   31 posts
Aug 28, 2017 at 06:19
ryang123 posted:
Not sure what is going on with MYFXBOOK calculations but it is wrong. I only had one big loss (about $100) and its because I accidentally opened two trades on the wrong account (AUDJPY). I am trying to keep this account for funnel trader only which only closes in a loss in extreme slippage.

I figured out why. You must deposit a lot when you were in big loss. Myfxbook calculated the loss all to your previous small balance which course a large percent loss. And mfb calculated the later profit gained to the after-depositing balance which making the profit percent relatively small. Then MFB just add the 2 figures up to get your final profit percent.
Member Since Sep 23, 2016   85 posts
Aug 29, 2017 at 13:39
I did deposit a lot when I was in dd. No worries. The bottom line is the profit number, not the gain %
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Member Since Nov 30, 2016   2 posts
Sep 18, 2017 at 14:39
The martingale doing great damage...😱
Member Since Sep 23, 2016   85 posts
Sep 18, 2017 at 14:43
Galante posted:
The martingale doing great damage...😱
This was a dumb mistake on my part as I went away for the weekend and forgot to add more funds. I always keep 5k on hand for this account. If you run funnel with stock settings with 5k, it works well.
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Member Since Mar 12, 2013   4 posts
Oct 05, 2017 at 07:35
Ryan

Why did your A/C get so much losses in Sep. 18, 2017?
What happened?
Member Since Sep 23, 2016   85 posts
Oct 05, 2017 at 13:55
Hello

I was on vacation and forgot to add funds to the account before I left. I keep it low just to avoid any potential flash crash like the GBP in October 2016 or the CHF in January 2015. If that happens, at least I would only lose a small portion of my trading capital.
The other issue is the way myfxbook does the calculation it makes it look like I lost much more than I did. It's best to look at the profit, not the growth. The growth calculation is messed up because I withdraw and deposit a lot. The robot was in the biggest drawdown it ever had and because I forgot to add money, it stopped me out for about $500. Overall, since 11/16 this account was up 2200 and I lost the 500 so it's now up about 1800 I believe. Still a great return on my 4000 investment.
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Member Since Oct 16, 2011   56 posts
Mar 11, 2018 at 18:02
Hi, Ryan,

Your account gained 140.85% in February! Did you run into DD problem? How did you solve it?

Thank you for advising.

Best,

Jim
Member Since Feb 20, 2016   11 posts
May 29, 2018 at 06:06
Hello Ryan !

Have you lost money with the robot?

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Member Since Sep 23, 2016   85 posts
Jun 02, 2018 at 03:55
No. Its a bad calculation from myfxbook. I was on vacation and forgot to deposit more margin before I left. The system went into a drawdown while I was away (of course) and I was stopped out on a few positions. I quickly deposited money when I found out but it was too late.
I am consistently withdrawing profits from this system. Once in a while I have to deposit more margin as it can go into large drawdowns but its normal. Great system overall.
 I just created a system that trades 15 pairs. Its did quite well for me in testing so I'm running it live. So far so good! I'll put it up here asap on myfxbook. Just switched accounts with it now so it will be a newer account so all results will be from scratch.
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Member Since Sep 23, 2016   85 posts
Jun 02, 2018 at 03:58
EAgreat posted:
Hi, Ryan,

Your account gained 140.85% in February! Did you run into DD problem? How did you solve it?

Thank you for advising.

Best,

Jim
I had a drawdown problem when I was away on vacation because I forgot to check to see if my account had enough funds. But I fixed it. Only way to avoid any issues with this one is to make sure it has enough funds. 4k min. Really 5k but 3-4 would work for high leverage brokers like IC Markets.
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Member Since Feb 20, 2016   11 posts
Jun 03, 2018 at 06:56
ryang123 posted:
No. Its a bad calculation from myfxbook. I was on vacation and forgot to deposit more margin before I left. The system went into a drawdown while I was away (of course) and I was stopped out on a few positions. I quickly deposited money when I found out but it was too late.
I am consistently withdrawing profits from this system. Once in a while I have to deposit more margin as it can go into large drawdowns but its normal. Great system overall.
 I just created a system that trades 15 pairs. Its did quite well for me in testing so I'm running it live. So far so good! I'll put it up here asap on myfxbook. Just switched accounts with it now so it will be a newer account so all results will be from scratch.

Thanks Ryan for your answer! I am really amazed with that system, just look my results in two weeks.

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Member Since Sep 23, 2016   85 posts
Jun 03, 2018 at 12:49
It really is brilliant. The past month was one of my all-time best. Just remember to keep more $ on hand because it will eventually go into a deep drawdown that seemingly never ends and will require up to 5k margin.. The market always retraces so I never worry bout it anymore.
Are you using different settings or stock? I have only tried stock settings so far but I'm planning on bumping it. I know a guy who uses a 200+k account with this system so it is possible to have some serious coin invested with it.
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Member Since Aug 22, 2012   170 posts
Jun 14, 2018 at 15:23
Hi Ryan. What risk setting do you use? I tried the free version with AVA trade but blew my 1K account. I'm thinking of buying it to use on my broker IC Markets, but I'm concerned about the drawdown. Did you have the risk up high when you had large drawdowns?
Thanks.
Member Since Feb 20, 2016   11 posts
Jun 15, 2018 at 07:02
incometrader posted:
Hi Ryan. What risk setting do you use? I tried the free version with AVA trade but blew my 1K account. I'm thinking of buying it to use on my broker IC Markets, but I'm concerned about the drawdown. Did you have the risk up high when you had large drawdowns?
Thanks.

Hello Vader FX

Use a cent account with 1:500 leverage

It works great with $150 and above!

Continue to deposit money untill you got $5000k usd, so after that you can invest more and more money with defaut settings on ecn account. :)

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Member Since Sep 23, 2016   85 posts
Jun 15, 2018 at 17:02
RoboFX123 posted:
roggerladislau posted:
ryang123 posted:
No. Its a bad calculation from myfxbook. I was on vacation and forgot to deposit more margin before I left. The system went into a drawdown while I was away (of course) and I was stopped out on a few positions. I quickly deposited money when I found out but it was too late.
I am consistently withdrawing profits from this system. Once in a while I have to deposit more margin as it can go into large drawdowns but its normal. Great system overall.
 I just created a system that trades 15 pairs. Its did quite well for me in testing so I'm running it live. So far so good! I'll put it up here asap on myfxbook. Just switched accounts with it now so it will be a newer account so all results will be from scratch.

Thanks Ryan for your answer! I am really amazed with that system, just look my results in two weeks.

It is not bad calculation myfxbook. Funnel Trader is martingale strategy and that's why it happened. Just look at history.

100% my fault because I did not deposit funds but the reason I say it's bad calculating because I only lost about $500. Look at my total profit. I simply forgot to deposit money before I left for my vacation (holiday, whatever you want to call it :) and the broker stopped out my trades during a high drawdown period. It was an honest mistake. You can seey profit is almost $4000. How can $500 loss be a 100% loss? How is it possible to have a 400%+ gain? It's all bad calculating. Call it martingale, grid, doesn't matter. I've been running for 2 years with no issues other than my own stupidity that one time.
 I've also created my own system based on a grid that I back tested for 15 years and it never had drawdown larger than 4k. I've also created a portfolio, up to 15 pairs, with NO grid or Marti and works great. Both are just different methods to trade fx and both work well for me. I would not use grid or Marti for clients just because I can't ask clients to deposit on demand.
Funnel, imho, is a great system for a real trader, not someone who doesn't monitor it. Or good for someone with a 10k account who wants a set and forget. My way is this... Keep $1k in the account & reserve $ aside to deposit and it will work fine. Funnel is not my creation so I don't have reason to defend it but I do make $ from it and consider it to be a part of my portfolio.
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