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Funnel Trader IC (By Ryan )

Gain : +463.61%
Drawdown 86.76%
Pips: 9100.7
Trades 8039
Won:
Lost:
Type: Real
Leverage: 1:200
Trading: Automated

Funnel Trader IC Discussion

Ryan (ryang123)
Jun 15 2018 at 17:02
85 posts
RoboFX123 posted:
roggerladislau posted:
ryang123 posted:
No. Its a bad calculation from myfxbook. I was on vacation and forgot to deposit more margin before I left. The system went into a drawdown while I was away (of course) and I was stopped out on a few positions. I quickly deposited money when I found out but it was too late.
I am consistently withdrawing profits from this system. Once in a while I have to deposit more margin as it can go into large drawdowns but its normal. Great system overall.
 I just created a system that trades 15 pairs. Its did quite well for me in testing so I'm running it live. So far so good! I'll put it up here asap on myfxbook. Just switched accounts with it now so it will be a newer account so all results will be from scratch.

Thanks Ryan for your answer! I am really amazed with that system, just look my results in two weeks.

It is not bad calculation myfxbook. Funnel Trader is martingale strategy and that's why it happened. Just look at history.

100% my fault because I did not deposit funds but the reason I say it's bad calculating because I only lost about $500. Look at my total profit. I simply forgot to deposit money before I left for my vacation (holiday, whatever you want to call it :) and the broker stopped out my trades during a high drawdown period. It was an honest mistake. You can seey profit is almost $4000. How can $500 loss be a 100% loss? How is it possible to have a 400%+ gain? It's all bad calculating. Call it martingale, grid, doesn't matter. I've been running for 2 years with no issues other than my own stupidity that one time.
 I've also created my own system based on a grid that I back tested for 15 years and it never had drawdown larger than 4k. I've also created a portfolio, up to 15 pairs, with NO grid or Marti and works great. Both are just different methods to trade fx and both work well for me. I would not use grid or Marti for clients just because I can't ask clients to deposit on demand.
Funnel, imho, is a great system for a real trader, not someone who doesn't monitor it. Or good for someone with a 10k account who wants a set and forget. My way is this... Keep $1k in the account & reserve $ aside to deposit and it will work fine. Funnel is not my creation so I don't have reason to defend it but I do make $ from it and consider it to be a part of my portfolio.
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Rogger Ladislau (roggerladislau)
Jun 17 2018 at 12:22
11 posts
You are right😁
David (davidoff9)
Jun 20 2018 at 14:49
13 posts
is this your signal? https://funneltrader.com because i subscribed to it for 490 $ and im getting your trades but the link inside points to another system, https://www.myfxbook.com/members/funneltrader/funnel-trader-account-1/1642938
thanks
If you're going to panic, panic early
Ryan (ryang123)
Jun 20 2018 at 19:51
85 posts
davidoff9 posted:
is this your signal? https://funneltrader.com because i subscribed to it for 490 $ and im getting your trades but the link inside points to another system, https://www.myfxbook.com/members/funneltrader/funnel-trader-account-1/1642938
thanks
Funnel belongs to the promotion company that sells the EA. I simply bought the EA from them and post my results on myfxbook. Completely unrelated, I do have a portfolio I set clients up with signals which is totally different than funnel. This is a link to the account I'm going to use: https://www.myfxbook.com/members/NJ4X/nj4x-portfolio/2565885 The trading style is completely different. I have 15 different strategies that are running at all times. Some are designed for ranging markets while others are designed to catch big trending runs. Consequently, it does well in all types of market conditions.
Should have it ready within the next month. www.nj4xadvisors.com is the website that has more info for you.
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Professional4X
Jun 24 2018 at 21:28
1189 posts
The stats page is using custom analysis to hide the actual stats for the account.

Currently the stats page is showing:



But if you look at the real stats it is different.






Why not just allow people to see the real stats to begin with?






Attachments:

If it looks too good to be true, it's probably a scam! Let the buyer beware.
Ryan (ryang123)
Jun 24 2018 at 21:46
85 posts
Professional4X posted:
The stats page is using custom analysis to hide the actual stats for the account.

Currently the stats page is showing:



But if you look at the real stats it is different.






Why not just allow people to see the real stats to begin with?





Just realized I was using my business account to post so the other post with NJ4X was me. Anyway, should be all set. I put it back to the original for you. Hope this helps!
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NJ4X
Jun 25 2018 at 06:06
3 posts
Professional4X posted:
The stats page is using custom analysis to hide the actual stats for the account.

Currently the stats page is showing:



But if you look at the real stats it is different.






Why not just allow people to see the real stats to begin with?





1. I don't sell this product 2. I recently did this for my own benefit so I can see my results from the start of the year. 3. I was getting a lot of messages from people saying that the system doesn't work because I lost $500 in September. However, that wasn't the system not working. It was me leaving on a vacation and forgetting to deposit money in my account during a period of a large drawdown.

Actually kinda amusing that you have that much time on your hands that you can analyze my page that much lol! Don't take it personal. I'm a ball buster sometimes. Anyway, I'll put it back to the original for you. No worries.
David (davidoff9)
Jun 28 2018 at 08:35
13 posts
i'm watching your open positions and they don't match at all mine ! how is it possible?
If you're going to panic, panic early
Ryan (ryang123)
Jun 28 2018 at 09:39
85 posts
davidoff9 posted:
i'm watching your open positions and they don't match at all mine ! how is it possible?
If I start making trades at 1pm and you start at 2pm, both of us will have different trades. This system is no different than that example. Even if we both started taking trades at the exact same time with the exact same broker, we would still eventually have different results because of liquidity.
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David (davidoff9)
Jun 28 2018 at 13:46
13 posts
ryang123 posted:
davidoff9 posted:
i'm watching your open positions and they don't match at all mine ! how is it possible?
If I start making trades at 1pm and you start at 2pm, both of us will have different trades. This system is no different than that example. Even if we both started taking trades at the exact same time with the exact same broker, we would still eventually have different results because of liquidity.
i mean you still have trades that were closed in a nice profit already
If you're going to panic, panic early
Ryan (ryang123)
Jun 29 2018 at 04:02
85 posts
davidoff9 posted:
ryang123 posted:
davidoff9 posted:
i'm watching your open positions and they don't match at all mine ! how is it possible?
If I start making trades at 1pm and you start at 2pm, both of us will have different trades. This system is no different than that example. Even if we both started taking trades at the exact same time with the exact same broker, we would still eventually have different results because of liquidity.
i mean you still have trades that were closed in a nice profit already
I've had 2 years of profits with this system. Not sure what you mean..
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David (davidoff9)
Jun 29 2018 at 06:52
13 posts
he already closed 2 basket in profit and yours is still open from yesterday?
If you're going to panic, panic early
David (davidoff9)
Jun 29 2018 at 07:02
13 posts
ryang123 posted:
davidoff9 posted:
ryang123 posted:
davidoff9 posted:
i'm watching your open positions and they don't match at all mine ! how is it possible?
If I start making trades at 1pm and you start at 2pm, both of us will have different trades. This system is no different than that example. Even if we both started taking trades at the exact same time with the exact same broker, we would still eventually have different results because of liquidity.
i mean you still have trades that were closed in a nice profit already
I've had 2 years of profits with this system. Not sure what you mean..
I am looking at your open trades and mine and they don’t match at all, I just want to undesrtand how funnel trader works, why is it opening and closing trades on my account and not on yours, we have the same signal after all?
If you're going to panic, panic early
Rogger Ladislau (roggerladislau)
Jul 01 2018 at 06:14
11 posts
Hello dude!

I just had a thinking very great!

Think with me!

If this Ea works with cycle profits, it can works even better the following way:

Account 1

Buy eurusd
Sell audusd
Sell eurjpy
Sell usdjpy
Sell nzdusd

-------------------------------

Account 2

Sell eurusd
Buy audusd
Buy eurjpy
Buy usdjpy
Buy nzdusd


We could tell for the owner to make a option to have in the robot one option to make only sell eurusd e buy the other

and only buy eurusd and sell the other, thus one account would make profits and the other could have temporary drawndown, and vice versa.


What do you think?

thanks
Ryan (ryang123)
Jul 02 2018 at 03:59
85 posts
davidoff9 posted:
ryang123 posted:
davidoff9 posted:
ryang123 posted:
davidoff9 posted:
i'm watching your open positions and they don't match at all mine ! how is it possible?
If I start making trades at 1pm and you start at 2pm, both of us will have different trades. This system is no different than that example. Even if we both started taking trades at the exact same time with the exact same broker, we would still eventually have different results because of liquidity.
i mean you still have trades that were closed in a nice profit already
I've had 2 years of profits with this system. Not sure what you mean..
I am looking at your open trades and mine and they don’t match at all, I just want to undesrtand how funnel trader works, why is it opening and closing trades on my account and not on yours, we have the same signal after all?
I understand now. You are thinking this is a trade signal. Its not a trade signal at all. Its an automated system that trades the currency market based on your brokers feed, the time you install the system, leverage, position sizing, account balance, etc. All this will play some part in how your trades are taken from the system. If it was a signal, then yes, you and I would have similar trades. Still not exact but closer than running our own separate systems. I'm sure you and I started running the system at different times too. That is probably the biggest factor. I suggest taking a look at babypips.com. I love this course. Free online course! I took it twice when I first got started trading. I helped me a ton!
Choose a good reputation over great riches (PROVERBS 22:1)
Ryan (ryang123)
Jul 02 2018 at 04:04
85 posts
roggerladislau posted:
Hello dude!

I just had a thinking very great!

Think with me!

If this Ea works with cycle profits, it can works even better the following way:

Account 1

Buy eurusd
Sell audusd
Sell eurjpy
Sell usdjpy
Sell nzdusd

-------------------------------

Account 2

Sell eurusd
Buy audusd
Buy eurjpy
Buy usdjpy
Buy nzdusd


We could tell for the owner to make a option to have in the robot one option to make only sell eurusd e buy the other

and only buy eurusd and sell the other, thus one account would make profits and the other could have temporary drawndown, and vice versa.


What do you think?

thanks
I thought the same thing a while back and I think I even told Lance about it. I even replicated it like this (I make my own systems too) but the problem is the drawdown is outweighed by the larger baskets. Yes, the other side would be taking profits but small in comparison. You would still need a substantial account size to run it. The one basket would also have a large drawdown.
Choose a good reputation over great riches (PROVERBS 22:1)
David (davidoff9)
Jul 02 2018 at 10:19
13 posts
ryang123 posted:
davidoff9 posted:
ryang123 posted:
davidoff9 posted:
ryang123 posted:
davidoff9 posted:
i'm watching your open positions and they don't match at all mine ! how is it possible?
If I start making trades at 1pm and you start at 2pm, both of us will have different trades. This system is no different than that example. Even if we both started taking trades at the exact same time with the exact same broker, we would still eventually have different results because of liquidity.
i mean you still have trades that were closed in a nice profit already
I've had 2 years of profits with this system. Not sure what you mean..
I am looking at your open trades and mine and they don’t match at all, I just want to undesrtand how funnel trader works, why is it opening and closing trades on my account and not on yours, we have the same signal after all?
I understand now. You are thinking this is a trade signal. Its not a trade signal at all. Its an automated system that trades the currency market based on your brokers feed, the time you install the system, leverage, position sizing, account balance, etc. All this will play some part in how your trades are taken from the system. If it was a signal, then yes, you and I would have similar trades. Still not exact but closer than running our own separate systems. I'm sure you and I started running the system at different times too. That is probably the biggest factor. I suggest taking a look at babypips.com. I love this course. Free online course! I took it twice when I first got started trading. I helped me a ton!
yes thanks i started trading 5 years ago with babypips, and i understand it is a robot, however i'm puzzled at the fact that it can make money opening different positions on each account, and that the account of lance has the same open trades since 15th june,
If you're going to panic, panic early
Ryan (ryang123)
Jul 03 2018 at 04:42
85 posts
davidoff9 posted:
ryang123 posted:
davidoff9 posted:
ryang123 posted:
davidoff9 posted:
ryang123 posted:
davidoff9 posted:
i'm watching your open positions and they don't match at all mine ! how is it possible?
If I start making trades at 1pm and you start at 2pm, both of us will have different trades. This system is no different than that example. Even if we both started taking trades at the exact same time with the exact same broker, we would still eventually have different results because of liquidity.
i mean you still have trades that were closed in a nice profit already
I've had 2 years of profits with this system. Not sure what you mean..
I am looking at your open trades and mine and they don’t match at all, I just want to undesrtand how funnel trader works, why is it opening and closing trades on my account and not on yours, we have the same signal after all?
I understand now. You are thinking this is a trade signal. Its not a trade signal at all. Its an automated system that trades the currency market based on your brokers feed, the time you install the system, leverage, position sizing, account balance, etc. All this will play some part in how your trades are taken from the system. If it was a signal, then yes, you and I would have similar trades. Still not exact but closer than running our own separate systems. I'm sure you and I started running the system at different times too. That is probably the biggest factor. I suggest taking a look at babypips.com. I love this course. Free online course! I took it twice when I first got started trading. I helped me a ton!
yes thanks i started trading 5 years ago with babypips, and i understand it is a robot, however i'm puzzled at the fact that it can make money opening different positions on each account, and that the account of lance has the same open trades since 15th june,
ok...so forget about funnel trader for a sec...let's say I open a long trade at 1 o clock on the EURUSD and at 2 o clock the fed comes out and says we are going to hike rates 32 more times this year. The market goes, well, nuts and brings the EURUSD down 49078 pips and my trade is still open with no stop loss. Now you come in at 3 o'clock, the EURUSD is slightly oversold (down 49078 pips, ok I kinda exaggerated my example) and you decide to place the same trade - long EURUSD. At this point, the market realizes that it's oversold and everyone starts buying the EURUSD. Now you are up 30 pips and take profit. Since the market is still taking USD profits and buying the EURUSD, you decide to buy another position. However, I'm wearing a frownie face because I'm still down 49048 pips. Anyway, in this example, U and I both took the same trade but only you made a profit because you had better TIMING. It's the same with funnel. It's all bout timing. That goes for any market and any trading system. I think that could be the single most overlooked part of trading is the bottom axis of the chart - the timing. Timing is EVERYTHING in trading. Dare I say .. more important than price action! Robot or manually trading, timing makes the difference between being in a drawdown from the 15th of June or taking profits all the way throughout the month. I'm not saying I planned that because I didn't (really lucky;) but I am saying that my trades just happened to be entered at a better TIME then Lance's. Sometimes it's the other way around so it all works out at the end of the month. If it was up to me I'd be in profit all month every month but unfortunately, I'm not the man up stairs so I'll take what He gives me :)
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Rogger Ladislau (roggerladislau)
Jul 03 2018 at 05:49
11 posts
ryang123 posted:
roggerladislau posted:
Hello dude!

I just had a thinking very great!

Think with me!

If this Ea works with cycle profits, it can works even better the following way:

Account 1

Buy eurusd
Sell audusd
Sell eurjpy
Sell usdjpy
Sell nzdusd

-------------------------------

Account 2

Sell eurusd
Buy audusd
Buy eurjpy
Buy usdjpy
Buy nzdusd


We could tell for the owner to make a option to have in the robot one option to make only sell eurusd e buy the other

and only buy eurusd and sell the other, thus one account would make profits and the other could have temporary drawndown, and vice versa.


What do you think?

thanks
I thought the same thing a while back and I think I even told Lance about it. I even replicated it like this (I make my own systems too) but the problem is the drawdown is outweighed by the larger baskets. Yes, the other side would be taking profits but small in comparison. You would still need a substantial account size to run it. The one basket would also have a large drawdown.

Yes, this system is amazing man!

Now i am making a test with a $1000 account demo, but i think i need a minimum $3000 account in order to be safe with my free margin in the case the robot needs to open more positions, with $1000 with leverage 1:200 i was with very little free margin ( 500 ) and the ea was on the basket lotno4.

I am really thinking to invest money with that robot, i just see your account growing and this makes me happy as hell.

I want to make consistent profits $150 average every 2 weeks for me is great!

Your thoughts?

Thanks man!
Ryan (ryang123)
Jul 03 2018 at 17:30
85 posts
roggerladislau posted:
ryang123 posted:
roggerladislau posted:
Hello dude!

I just had a thinking very great!

Think with me!

If this Ea works with cycle profits, it can works even better the following way:

Account 1

Buy eurusd
Sell audusd
Sell eurjpy
Sell usdjpy
Sell nzdusd

-------------------------------

Account 2

Sell eurusd
Buy audusd
Buy eurjpy
Buy usdjpy
Buy nzdusd


We could tell for the owner to make a option to have in the robot one option to make only sell eurusd e buy the other

and only buy eurusd and sell the other, thus one account would make profits and the other could have temporary drawndown, and vice versa.


What do you think?

thanks
I thought the same thing a while back and I think I even told Lance about it. I even replicated it like this (I make my own systems too) but the problem is the drawdown is outweighed by the larger baskets. Yes, the other side would be taking profits but small in comparison. You would still need a substantial account size to run it. The one basket would also have a large drawdown.

Yes, this system is amazing man!

Now i am making a test with a $1000 account demo, but i think i need a minimum $3000 account in order to be safe with my free margin in the case the robot needs to open more positions, with $1000 with leverage 1:200 i was with very little free margin ( 500 ) and the ea was on the basket lotno4.

I am really thinking to invest money with that robot, i just see your account growing and this makes me happy as hell.

I want to make consistent profits $150 average every 2 weeks for me is great!

Your thoughts?

Thanks man!
Yeah man its great! I average about $250/mo. Just be careful with it because it is a grid system with no stop loss. You have to have thick skin when it goes into big drawdowns and a lot of $$ in margin. I keep 5k on hand for it. The only issue I see with it is if we every have a massive bear market like 2008, that will be bad for funnel. But with today's market, its awesome.
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