Million Dollar Pips (By milliondpips)
| Gain : | +26241.17% |
| Drawdown | 39.44% |
| Pips: | 5202.2 |
| Trades | 4497 |
| Won: |
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| Lost: |
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| Type: | Demo |
| Leverage: | 1:200 |
| Trading: | Automated |
Million Dollar Pips Discussion
forex_trader_36599
Member Since May 13, 2011
1341 posts
Nov 29, 2011 at 11:42
perfect world. there is nothing like that.
dont know if you are coder or not but can you imagine how long and how much does it cost to create a system. it can be profitable or not. ( I am not mentioning the sick brain cheaters )
Mr William has create a system and a bunch of traders are here using to make money. at the end of the day it can be profitable or not.
it depends on you to buy it or not. nobodys are forcing anybody to buy it. but when using it just respect others work.
if you have an idea you can contact the creator and if the idea is good I am sure creator will use it.
walker
dont know if you are coder or not but can you imagine how long and how much does it cost to create a system. it can be profitable or not. ( I am not mentioning the sick brain cheaters )
Mr William has create a system and a bunch of traders are here using to make money. at the end of the day it can be profitable or not.
it depends on you to buy it or not. nobodys are forcing anybody to buy it. but when using it just respect others work.
if you have an idea you can contact the creator and if the idea is good I am sure creator will use it.
walker
fughe posted:
Personally, i think it is too bad that people are so untrustworthy that there is a need to do all sorts of encryption and protection to keep people from stealing it. I would much rather MDP could be distributed as the raw mql4 file and people would put it in their folder and mt4 would compile it for them.....without the author needing to worry about people stealing it and not paying for it, or worse, calling it a different name and selling it as their own work.
Nov 29, 2011 at 12:17
walker36 posted:
perfect world. there is nothing like that.
dont know if you are coder or not but can you imagine how long and how much does it cost to create a system. it can be profitable or not. ( I am not mentioning the sick brain cheaters )
Mr William has create a system and a bunch of traders are here using to make money. at the end of the day it can be profitable or not.
it depends on you to buy it or not. nobodys are forcing anybody to buy it. but when using it just respect others work.
if you have an idea you can contact the creator and if the idea is good I am sure creator will use it.
walker
I am in the learning process of becoming a coder. It is not easy when you know nothing about it.
Make losses, but always come out a winner at the end.
Nov 29, 2011 at 13:46
(edited Nov 29, 2011 at 13:54)
Hello,
I heard that there are some EAs on the market, which are sponsored by brokers.
I ask me why. If MDP a sponsored EA?
Therefore I understand, that this EA have for most persons not good live results.
If the win small, no problems, but its bigger, the problems start.
I think maybe MT4 have a backdoor maybe as an automated loader for plugins.
With an anti-user-profit-plugin can the broker analize what we do on our machines an can create an anti profit part, specally for every user. Against every user strategy. The server know what type of fool you need to kill your profit.
Maybe::
Sometime the server say to your MT4, make a new login and the try to login after 15 seconds. Or say for the next 10 seconds be slow by get prices, and so on..., and the user cant sell or buy his profitable trades for a while.
Most users have not a problem, while they are not in profit or not will realize his profit at this time.
And then the user which loke to realize his profit, and bang...
No luck, damned... Ask another, hehe it seems I am the only one who have no luck at this time. You never can say the broker fails or MT4 is not ok. You think, its your system, windows, whatever.
What can we do. We can to check what are facts and make statistics about the trading with our brokers. Than we can see who seems to fool us, and who plays fair.
We can hope, to find a fair broker, but it seems, that is not possible for mt4 platforms.
Who of you mean, he has a fair broker?
And who of you not?
What you think, all the ECN and or STPorders goes to the market?
No, the most orders goes only in brokers orderbook.
Its the same as a dialingdesk, but an another type.
I think that is in the absolute near of the truth. We should not ignore the facts, and theese we get every day by our trading.
Who of you lost his account, because he has a profitable strategie and the broker have to pay?
I am shure there are some.
You can be lucky you get your money and a small part of win to your bank account.
What you think about what I say to you ???
Joe
I heard that there are some EAs on the market, which are sponsored by brokers.
I ask me why. If MDP a sponsored EA?
Therefore I understand, that this EA have for most persons not good live results.
If the win small, no problems, but its bigger, the problems start.
I think maybe MT4 have a backdoor maybe as an automated loader for plugins.
With an anti-user-profit-plugin can the broker analize what we do on our machines an can create an anti profit part, specally for every user. Against every user strategy. The server know what type of fool you need to kill your profit.
Maybe::
Sometime the server say to your MT4, make a new login and the try to login after 15 seconds. Or say for the next 10 seconds be slow by get prices, and so on..., and the user cant sell or buy his profitable trades for a while.
Most users have not a problem, while they are not in profit or not will realize his profit at this time.
And then the user which loke to realize his profit, and bang...
No luck, damned... Ask another, hehe it seems I am the only one who have no luck at this time. You never can say the broker fails or MT4 is not ok. You think, its your system, windows, whatever.
What can we do. We can to check what are facts and make statistics about the trading with our brokers. Than we can see who seems to fool us, and who plays fair.
We can hope, to find a fair broker, but it seems, that is not possible for mt4 platforms.
Who of you mean, he has a fair broker?
And who of you not?
What you think, all the ECN and or STPorders goes to the market?
No, the most orders goes only in brokers orderbook.
Its the same as a dialingdesk, but an another type.
I think that is in the absolute near of the truth. We should not ignore the facts, and theese we get every day by our trading.
Who of you lost his account, because he has a profitable strategie and the broker have to pay?
I am shure there are some.
You can be lucky you get your money and a small part of win to your bank account.
What you think about what I say to you ???
Joe
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forex_trader_36599
Member Since May 13, 2011
1341 posts
Nov 29, 2011 at 13:52
Joe
MT4 has some error codes inside against the HFT and Arbitrage. due MT4 is not catching %100 ticks. on the top of that 'VDP' on broker side is doing quite well for
suspending
delaying orders
or stop limit hunting.
walker
MT4 has some error codes inside against the HFT and Arbitrage. due MT4 is not catching %100 ticks. on the top of that 'VDP' on broker side is doing quite well for
suspending
delaying orders
or stop limit hunting.
walker
forex_trader_46166
Member Since Aug 30, 2011
73 posts
Nov 29, 2011 at 14:03
JoeDorman posted:
Hello,
I heard that there are some EAs on the market, which are sponsored by brokers.
I ask me why. If MDP a sponsored EA?
Therefore I understand, that this EA have for most persons not good live results.
If the win small, no problems, but its bigger, the problems start.
I think maybe MT4 have a backdoor maybe as an automated loader for plugins.
With an anti-user-profit-plugin can the broker analize what we do on our machines an can create an anti profit part, specally for every user. Against every user strategy. The server know what type of fool you need to kill your profit.
Maybe::
Sometime the server say to your MT4, make a new login and the try to login after 15 seconds. Or say for the next 10 seconds be slow by get prices, and so on..., and the user cant sell or buy his profitable trades for a while.
Most users have not a problem, while they are not in profit or not will realize his profit at this time.
And then the user which loke to realize his profit, and bang...
No luck, damned... Ask another, hehe it seems I am the only one who have no luck at this time. You never can say the broker fails or MT4 is not ok. You think, its your system, windows, whatever.
What can we do. We can to check what are facts and make statistics about the trading with our brokers. Than we can see who seems to fool us, and who plays fair.
We can hope, to find a fair broker, but it seems, that is not possible for mt4 platforms.
Who of you mean, he has a fair broker?
And who of you not?
What you think, all the ECN and or STPorders goes to the market?
No, the most orders goes only in brokers orderbook.
Its the same as a dialingdesk, but an another type.
I think that is in the absolute near of the truth. We should not ignore the facts, and theese we get every day by our trading.
Who of you lost his account, because he has a profitable strategie and the broker have to pay?
I am shure there are some.
You can be lucky you get your money and a small part of win to your bank account.
What you think about what I say to you ???
Joe
Joe. Yes MDP will be linked to brokers, you will notice that if you click on one of the reccomended brokers on their website the link will read something like www.hotforex.com/mdp...
So if we join from these links then basically like an IB MDP would just get a bonus in terms of 1 pips from the broker for each trade placed (as an example).
Nov 29, 2011 at 14:07
(edited Nov 29, 2011 at 14:11)
Yes @walker,
it seems I smell most brokers are criminals.
Would they transfer our orders to the interbank market, they not need to fool us.
But I am shure we have a new type of a new dialingdesk for ECN and ECN/STP.
A very clever system to check how we trade, what they need to fool us automated.
We never can win by short distance trading.
Its same as a mafia clan I think.
Unhappy
Joe
All updates have inside more fools against us.
Also we should trade with the oldest MT4 version, we can find.
it seems I smell most brokers are criminals.
Would they transfer our orders to the interbank market, they not need to fool us.
But I am shure we have a new type of a new dialingdesk for ECN and ECN/STP.
A very clever system to check how we trade, what they need to fool us automated.
We never can win by short distance trading.
Its same as a mafia clan I think.
Unhappy
Joe
All updates have inside more fools against us.
Also we should trade with the oldest MT4 version, we can find.
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forex_trader_36599
Member Since May 13, 2011
1341 posts
Nov 29, 2011 at 14:14
MT4 is not designed for ECN or STP. it is DD platform. what ever you do there is a defend mechanism at the broker side. what I advise is when you start working with broker secure that you can get the broker server logs when needed.
Nov 29, 2011 at 14:19
walker36 posted:
MT4 is not designed for ECN or STP. it is DD platform. what ever you do there is a defend mechanism at the broker side. what I advise is when you start working with broker secure that you can get the broker server logs when needed.
How I can get the brokers server logs ?
Joe
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forex_trader_36599
Member Since May 13, 2011
1341 posts
Nov 29, 2011 at 14:22
as MT4 is recording all activities also brokers has all activities logs for server. when you have a issue you can ask from broker for the server logs for your trades. normally they should supply that information for the clients. when starting with a broker secure that you can get that info when you ask for. they usually say that they dont keep logs but THEY DO!!
Nov 29, 2011 at 14:34
(edited Nov 29, 2011 at 14:42)
Hmm, but this part of log maybe we can see, will not show fools action or something in this direction.
Steve, you are programmer?
I need a part of code, that can read the logins, i have had for a day or hour for a statistic.
And an another part, that can report, the spread as the time before and after my buys and sells.
I like to know, what type of fool is working against me.
Can you help?
Joe
Steve, you are programmer?
I need a part of code, that can read the logins, i have had for a day or hour for a statistic.
And an another part, that can report, the spread as the time before and after my buys and sells.
I like to know, what type of fool is working against me.
Can you help?
Joe
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forex_trader_46166
Member Since Aug 30, 2011
73 posts
Nov 29, 2011 at 14:42
JoeDorman posted:
@Ben
whow,
at first we pay for this EA and then we loose whitit.
Also we pay that we loose 😁
Joe
I guess it depends what the deal is MDP has with the brokers it reccommends... could be a deposit bonus, 1 pip per trade taken, or even commission %... if its a pip i would think it gets added to the spread, which is why MDP reccomends using the smallest spread possible. Having said that this is all speculation, although id bet money that MDP does make money from broker referrals because if you click the links from the MDP site you can see that they are linked by the address bar....
(I just get round this by going into their sites fresh, i.e with thinkforex i didnt use the link on the MDP site, i went direct to their web address).
A broker wont go out of their way to destroy us - the longer we last and the more we make, the more they make so why would they set up silly rules to make us blow our accounts?
forex_trader_36599
Member Since May 13, 2011
1341 posts
Nov 29, 2011 at 14:49
yer I am coder and programmer but I am really busy these days for my new EA. use the attached indicator for recording your spread.
have fun.
walker
have fun.
walker
JoeDorman posted:
Hmm, but this part of log maybe we can see, will not show fools action or something in this direction.
Steve, you are programmer?
I need a part of code, that can read the logins, i have had for a day or hour for a statistic.
And an another part, that can report, the spread as the time before and after my buys and sells.
I like to know, what type of fool is working against me.
Can you help?
Joe
forex_trader_32776
Member Since Mar 28, 2011
1008 posts
Nov 29, 2011 at 14:56
walker36 posted:
as MT4 is recording all activities also brokers has all activities logs for server. when you have a issue you can ask from broker for the server logs for your trades. normally they should supply that information for the clients. when starting with a broker secure that you can get that info when you ask for. they usually say that they dont keep logs but THEY DO!!
I've recently experienced that the Log file within the MT4 platform can be rewritten by the broker. As a result, when you have an issue, there is no actual evidence to defend your case against the broker. Metatrader is designed for cheating retail clients and it always has been. Here is my personal experience with the log files being rewritten - https://www.pipinvestment.com/Menu/1209
Basically to sum it up. My data feed was moved from 5th decimal to 4th decimal over night, and my logfiles were completely rewritten to display 4th decimal pricing.
I remember a similar scenario about 2 years ago where the broker said to reference back to Logfiles and see if I was disconnected or to track down the problems,.... Of course , nothing was to be found, No disconnects reported.
forex_trader_36599
Member Since May 13, 2011
1341 posts
Nov 29, 2011 at 15:04
'What this means for me personally?
My Demo accounts that were Trading BlueBull are useless because of the 4th decimal Pricing from this point on
I now have proof that the Metatrader brokers have full control over rewriting logs and can hide any technical issue that would normally appear within the log file
We need to develop a Second Log File backup outside of MT4 that can not be manipulated '
I agree!!
My Demo accounts that were Trading BlueBull are useless because of the 4th decimal Pricing from this point on
I now have proof that the Metatrader brokers have full control over rewriting logs and can hide any technical issue that would normally appear within the log file
We need to develop a Second Log File backup outside of MT4 that can not be manipulated '
I agree!!
Member Since Oct 05, 2011
36 posts
Nov 29, 2011 at 15:09
ForexScam posted:
walker36 posted:
as MT4 is recording all activities also brokers has all activities logs for server. when you have a issue you can ask from broker for the server logs for your trades. normally they should supply that information for the clients. when starting with a broker secure that you can get that info when you ask for. they usually say that they dont keep logs but THEY DO!!
I've recently experienced that the Log file within the MT4 platform can be rewritten by the broker. As a result, when you have an issue, there is no actual evidence to defend your case against the broker. Metatrader is designed for cheating retail clients and it always has been. Here is my personal experience with the log files being rewritten - https://www.pipinvestment.com/Menu/1209
Basically to sum it up. My data feed was moved from 5th decimal to 4th decimal over night, and my logfiles were completely rewritten to display 4th decimal pricing.
I remember a similar scenario about 2 years ago where the broker said to reference back to Logfiles and see if I was disconnected or to track down the problems,.... Of course , nothing was to be found, No disconnects reported.
I have never had any problems with my broker. My MDP continues to make reasonable profits. I believe you guys focus on the wrong things. Always looking at small details instead of the big picture. It seems like you mostly believe that all brokers are involved in some kind of conspiracy to take your money. In the US the brokers are highly regulated and would incur hugh fines if they did any of the things you guys keep claiming in these posts. If you think brokers are dishonest then close your accounts and get out of Forex.
forex_trader_32776
Member Since Mar 28, 2011
1008 posts
Nov 29, 2011 at 15:12
oldchartreader posted:
ForexScam posted:
walker36 posted:
as MT4 is recording all activities also brokers has all activities logs for server. when you have a issue you can ask from broker for the server logs for your trades. normally they should supply that information for the clients. when starting with a broker secure that you can get that info when you ask for. they usually say that they dont keep logs but THEY DO!!
I've recently experienced that the Log file within the MT4 platform can be rewritten by the broker. As a result, when you have an issue, there is no actual evidence to defend your case against the broker. Metatrader is designed for cheating retail clients and it always has been. Here is my personal experience with the log files being rewritten - https://www.pipinvestment.com/Menu/1209
Basically to sum it up. My data feed was moved from 5th decimal to 4th decimal over night, and my logfiles were completely rewritten to display 4th decimal pricing.
I remember a similar scenario about 2 years ago where the broker said to reference back to Logfiles and see if I was disconnected or to track down the problems,.... Of course , nothing was to be found, No disconnects reported.
I have never had any problems with my broker. My MDP continues to make reasonable profits. I believe you guys focus on the wrong things. Always looking at small details instead of the big picture. It seems like you mostly believe that all brokers are involved in some kind of conspiracy to take your money. In the US the brokers are highly regulated and would incur hugh fines if they did any of the things you guys keep claiming in these posts. If you think brokers are dishonest then close your accounts and get out of Forex.
FXDD sued , FXCM Sued, GAIN sued..
yeah. small detials. huh?
And the only reason why we know about these cases are because US brokers are regulated in recent terms.
forex_trader_36599
Member Since May 13, 2011
1341 posts
Nov 29, 2011 at 15:17
(edited Nov 29, 2011 at 15:18)
I have never seen that much offensive thread.
- I do not use MDP.
- below post is posted by a person that currently making money with a system and seeing other at low level.
- Brokers cheat and clients discuss this is the nature of this bussines.
- I will CLOSE my ACCOUNT and stay away from FX thanks for your great and valuable advise.
why I am here I am just learning and helping others if I can
have good day
walker
- I do not use MDP.
- below post is posted by a person that currently making money with a system and seeing other at low level.
- Brokers cheat and clients discuss this is the nature of this bussines.
- I will CLOSE my ACCOUNT and stay away from FX thanks for your great and valuable advise.
why I am here I am just learning and helping others if I can
have good day
walker
oldchartreader posted:
ForexScam posted:
walker36 posted:
as MT4 is recording all activities also brokers has all activities logs for server. when you have a issue you can ask from broker for the server logs for your trades. normally they should supply that information for the clients. when starting with a broker secure that you can get that info when you ask for. they usually say that they dont keep logs but THEY DO!!
I've recently experienced that the Log file within the MT4 platform can be rewritten by the broker. As a result, when you have an issue, there is no actual evidence to defend your case against the broker. Metatrader is designed for cheating retail clients and it always has been. Here is my personal experience with the log files being rewritten - https://www.pipinvestment.com/Menu/1209
Basically to sum it up. My data feed was moved from 5th decimal to 4th decimal over night, and my logfiles were completely rewritten to display 4th decimal pricing.
I remember a similar scenario about 2 years ago where the broker said to reference back to Logfiles and see if I was disconnected or to track down the problems,.... Of course , nothing was to be found, No disconnects reported.
I have never had any problems with my broker. My MDP continues to make reasonable profits. I believe you guys focus on the wrong things. Always looking at small details instead of the big picture. It seems like you mostly believe that all brokers are involved in some kind of conspiracy to take your money. In the US the brokers are highly regulated and would incur hugh fines if they did any of the things you guys keep claiming in these posts. If you think brokers are dishonest then close your accounts and get out of Forex.
