To use chat, please login.
Back to contacts

Smart Forex Expert Signal (High Risk) (By SmartForexExpert )

Gain : +3.24%
Drawdown 57.08%
Pips: 136460.3
Trades 2825
Type: Real
Leverage: 1:500
Trading: Automated

Smart Forex Expert Signal (High Risk) Discussion

SmartForexExpert (SFETrading)
Aug 14 2020 at 12:49
87 posts
Forex21 posted:
With your old user account you 'retired' your accounts with a draw down of more than 90%.
But who knows, maybe Einstein was wrong and doing the same thing again will lead to different results this time.
Good luck Jimmy! :)

I have explained this several times before - on my personal accounts I used very high risk and I withdrew most of my profits and only leaving what's required to maintain the margin to run the accounts. Look at the Profit tab and you get a different picture:

and the total profit was over $330K:

and thanks for wishing me good luck, but I won't need it. Our strategies are based on real mathematical and statistical models that can beat the market, so we don't need luck to make profit in the long term. 😄

Aug 14 2020 at 13:00
7 posts
Leroy42 posted:
stefanosb73 posted:
This is the best signal I have ever joined. Results are the same as official account and owner support is great. All results are 100x100 comparable to official account.

Thank you for coming forward Stefanos and for sharing your SFE live trading results. They are truly impressive.

LOL, that account is my SFE price action, I was not lucky to buy it just before it started having some problem with markets conditions, lack of strong impulses ecc. It has nothing to do with the signal, where SFE PA is just one of the eas.
PS SFE has an history of many years and my only bad luck was not buy some years before.

So I think is better if you comment the signal.

Moreno Rodrigez (MRodrigez)
Aug 16 2020 at 15:51
168 posts
stefanosb73 posted:

Need to check those statistical models one more time.

Account 1 3% average monthly profit 98% DD over a period of more than 4 years
Account 2 3% average monthly profit 88% DD over a period of more than 3 years
Account 3 -1.0% average monthly profit 34% DD over a period of more than 2 years

SmartForexExpert (SFETrading)
Aug 17 2020 at 05:25
87 posts
LOL why you are so obsessed with the DD% when the total combined profit on my personal accounts was over $330K over 4 years?

As I said before, they were my own accounts and I was trading them at high risk and only leaving what’s required in the accounts to cover the margin. If I had a $1 million account then the numbers would become 33% gain with less than 10% DD over 4 years, because I never had a loss of more than $100K from the peak at any given time. I basically was trading my accounts like a $1 million account when I only had $100K or less in there. But I was confident with the strategies and at the end of the day it’s the actual profit in $$$ that counts, not the DD% which is just relative to the account size. It is a high risk method but I made it work with the profitable SFE strategies I had.

With the signals I am running now on IC Markets, I only use the default risk designed for each EA. Still, the IC Markets 100% Risk account is considered a high risk account and I expect the max DD can go up to 50-60%, but at the same time the yearly gain should be over 100-200%. The Pepperstone 30% Risk account will have a max expected DD less than 20%, with an expected annual return of 30-50%. There is no risk of margin call even with the high risk account, because the max loss on a single trade is capped at 3%, and as the account decreases in size, the trading lot size will go down as well.

People who are more adventurous can use the same risk as my IC Markets account, however I don’t recommend using this risk for people who are not prepared for 50% DD. Also, to balance out the risk myself, I plan to withdraw profits from the 100% Risk account to the 30% Risk account regularly.

As for the 34% DD on stefanos’s account, he started using SFE Price Action right at the peak in July 2018. Price action based strategies have struggled in the last 2 years due to less sustained breakouts in the market. Nevertheless, even though it is still now sitting at 20% DD, the official SFE Price Action account still had over 400% gain since 2015:

In fact, knowing the market cycle, I believe SFE Price Action will start to make another new high soon - very likely before the end of the year.

Also, SFE Price Action is only 1 of the 9 EAs that we use in our signals. When you have 9 profitable long term strategies covering each other, then the stagnation period will be significantly reduced, and the growth curve will be much more smooth.

Ok, that’s enough from me now. You are welcome to come back in a year’s time and see where our accounts are sitting at.😉

SmartForexExpert (SFETrading)
Aug 23 2020 at 06:13
87 posts
We have added a new strategy, SFE Black Fever, which uses the SFE Gold Fever EA to trade Bitcoin with special settings, at 1% Risk per trade. We have also reduced the risk on SFE Stock Market EA from 1.5% to 1% risk per trade, to reduce the overall risk exposure on the account.

This account will now be running the following strategies:

SFE Stock Market - 1% Risk per trade, 14 positions max
SFE Price Action - 1% Risk per trade
SFE Attractor - 1% Risk per trade
SFE Stealth - 3% Risk per trade
SFE Night Scalper - 2% Risk per trade
SFE Breakout - 1.5% Risk per trade
SFE KISS - 2% Risk per trade
SFE Trend - 2% Risk per trade
SFE Gold Fever - 1% Risk per trade
SFE Black Fever - 1% Risk per trade

Moreno Rodrigez (MRodrigez)
Aug 24 2020 at 09:58
168 posts
I am not obsessed with dd but the number one job as a trader is to manage risk.
A +90% dd as on your accounts is a statement of failure and the argument 'yes but i did make some money at the end' is not valid.
Adding to loosing trades and averaging may work for a while but as you experienced many times, at the end you will not get away with it.

I think you should do less marketing and more risk management.

SmartForexExpert (SFETrading)
Aug 24 2020 at 11:17
87 posts
They were my personal accounts so I could do whatever I wanted. As I said, if I had $1 million (which of course I didn't) then the gain would have been 33% with the DD less than 10% over the 4 years. I understand it's a risky way to trade but it's also a proof that the systems works if you know when to increase the risk and when to withdraw your profits.

Anyway, I will not be using such high risk again with our public signals, so 80-90% DD will simply be impossible to happen in the future, even with this 1x Risk account. (although 50-60% DD may still be possible if you read my previous post, but at the same time the annual gain will be well over 100-200%).

People are welcome to watch our accounts for the next 12 months and make their own judgement. 😄

Aug 25 2020 at 20:15
7 posts
My account is near to its equity high. Personally I'm very happy with this signal.

Moreno Rodrigez (MRodrigez)
Sep 24 2020 at 11:24
168 posts
SFETrading posted:
... at the same time the annual gain will be well over 100-200%).

People are welcome to watch our accounts for the next 12 months and make their own judgement. 😄

Looks like your moving average system is not working well these days. What happend?

Xiaoming (XiaomingCN)
Sep 24 2020 at 13:45
13 posts
I believe that the drawdown level should not exceed 10 -15%

Please login to comment .