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TotalGrid Crazy (By Citrullone )

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TotalGrid Crazy Discussion

Akinwale (leverconsult)
Sep 07 2012 at 18:10
140 posts
why does vendor recommend $50 on tradefort 0.01 base lot when he,s using $4.36??
I guess the account has only been surviving on profits made so far and not deposit
Courage is not the absence of fear,but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear
Citrullone
Sep 08 2012 at 05:58
55 posts
leverconsult posted:
why does vendor recommend $50 on tradefort 0.01 base lot when he,s using $4.36??
I guess the account has only been surviving on profits made so far and not deposit

Yes, my demposit is too low, in fact i suggest to start with 5.000$cent. My crazy account was a lucky bet! But i have many other account on my portfolio with higher starting balance.
Akinwale (leverconsult)
Sep 08 2012 at 14:47
140 posts
Citrullone posted:
leverconsult posted:
why does vendor recommend $50 on tradefort 0.01 base lot when he,s using $4.36??
I guess the account has only been surviving on profits made so far and not deposit

Yes, my demposit is too low, in fact i suggest to start with 5.000$cent. My crazy account was a lucky bet! But i have many other account on my portfolio with higher starting balance.
ok. pls try to present account deposits that are recommended only, and not the gambles so a trader can start right.
Courage is not the absence of fear,but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear
Tim Needham (tneedham)
Sep 18 2012 at 01:38
45 posts
The smaller the starting balance the better the program has to be to survive it. And surviving last week is a really impressive feat!
If the best of this program and Evny could be combined you'd really have something impressive!
Personally I'm looking forward to money management. I figure the author knows better than I what can and can't be done to Improve ROI. I've seen blown accounts on the website and that really impresses me. Most folks tend to hide the negative stuff.
I just wish that they could find another broker that is as good as Tradefort that accepts American Customers..

leverconsult posted:
Citrullone posted:
leverconsult posted:
why does vendor recommend $50 on tradefort 0.01 base lot when he,s using $4.36??
I guess the account has only been surviving on profits made so far and not deposit

Yes, my demposit is too low, in fact i suggest to start with 5.000$cent. My crazy account was a lucky bet! But i have many other account on my portfolio with higher starting balance.
ok. pls try to present account deposits that are recommended only, and not the gambles so a trader can start right.
If you are makeing less than 100% a month you aren't doing it right!
Tim Needham (tneedham)
Sep 18 2012 at 01:40
45 posts
Would it be possible to bias the trades with the trend instead of against it? That way you could use larger lot sizes and make money even faster!
If you are makeing less than 100% a month you aren't doing it right!
willgart
Sep 18 2012 at 01:49
588 posts
yep, the overall management of this EA is very great.
the developper answers quickly our questions and include our suggestions quickly too (I ask one and in the week was added!!!)

for info, this EA use the supertrend indicator. not sure if its used to open the short or long trade cycles. so there is a try to go in the trend in the EA...
but as you can see... still not perfect and the margin call still here.

in my case the MC occurs 4 times faster with totalgrid than forexenvy does it...
so no matter the protection in the EA, when the market moves... nothing todo!
I restart my account with a lower base lot size, I'll see at the end of the week.
Akinwale (leverconsult)
Sep 18 2012 at 15:49
140 posts
i guess the trades that closed yesterday and today were closed manually right?
Courage is not the absence of fear,but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear
Citrullone
Sep 18 2012 at 16:01
55 posts
leverconsult posted:
i guess the trades that closed yesterday and today were closed manually right?

Crazy account is testing at the moment the new 1.5 version, that will be released at the end of the months.
In this version is present a trailing stop for the last level and a recovery for big position in profit when margin is reducing duo to high DD.
I'm still thinking about using these functions and i'm testing in real now.
For example today it closed a 12th level of eurjpy in trailing, but prices hit anyway the original target.
willgart
Sep 18 2012 at 16:07
588 posts
leverconsult posted:
i guess the trades that closed yesterday and today were closed manually right?
I think not.

the EA can close trades even if the basket is negative. the system try to protect the account 'at any cost' which mean closing trades even if there is no danger for the account...
This can results in negative days.
this is bad when the basket starts to be big, and closed in lost, while the good trend starts appearing and the EA could close with big profit... (when I take a lot of risk, I expect good return)
the v 1.4.3 includes a negative basket protection to force the EA to close in profit. but its not active in the account I think.

The idea is good, the martingale is here because the entry point was missed, and the EA try to get some profit, but also try to protect the account.
willgart
Sep 18 2012 at 16:14
588 posts
v 1.5
you rocks :)
Akinwale (leverconsult)
Sep 18 2012 at 16:33
140 posts
Citrullone posted:
leverconsult posted:
i guess the trades that closed yesterday and today were closed manually right?

Crazy account is testing at the moment the new 1.5 version, that will be released at the end of the months.
In this version is present a trailing stop for the last level and a recovery for big position in profit when margin is reducing duo to high DD.
I'm still thinking about using these functions and i'm testing in real now.
For example today it closed a 12th level of eurjpy in trailing, but prices hit anyway the original target.


thanks. you those EURJPY trades were actually closed by trailing?

Secondly, what advantage do we have when a martingale system trades a basket of currencies instead of just one, cos i think there is even more risk for basket trading
Courage is not the absence of fear,but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear
Citrullone
Sep 18 2012 at 16:41
55 posts
One advantage is that you'll get more profit with less capital. In fact it's very difficult that more that 2 or 3 cross create big basket, so with a 3x capital you'll get 9x gain.
Second, you can apply global protection using gain of other cross to close other possible big baskets.

I wanna thanks willgart, a very smart trader and a good tester for my EA!
I receive many advice on TG and i test some of them, and if they are usefull i insert in my New version.
Akinwale (leverconsult)
Sep 21 2012 at 15:12
140 posts
thanks, ive also started a test of your current version. i have experimented with various versions of martingale and think Total Grid has the best reward to risk ratio so far:-) and yet you are still improving it while being open about the risk involved in using it.

Do the trade baskets in each currency pair interplay with one another or each currency pair functions independently?
Courage is not the absence of fear,but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear
Akinwale (leverconsult)
Sep 25 2012 at 09:40
140 posts
have you upgraded to version 1.5? ever since i upgraded, the account seems not doing well ----

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/leverconsult/tgd/386895
Courage is not the absence of fear,but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear
Citrullone
Sep 25 2012 at 09:49
55 posts
leverconsult posted:
have you upgraded to version 1.5? ever since i upgraded, the account seems not doing well ----

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/leverconsult/tgd/386895

Do you mean for DD? All open position and history are locked on your stat, could you set them public?
Akinwale (leverconsult)
Sep 25 2012 at 10:16
140 posts
Citrullone posted:
leverconsult posted:
have you upgraded to version 1.5? ever since i upgraded, the account seems not doing well ----

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/leverconsult/tgd/386895

Do you mean for DD? All open position and history are locked on your stat, could you set them public?

sorry about that, didnt realise it was locked.just opened it up now.

im talking about profitability that is having losing days which wasnt the case b4
Courage is not the absence of fear,but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear
Citrullone
Sep 25 2012 at 10:35
55 posts
New 1.5.0 has many functions to minimize DD and risk, but on the other side this reduce profitability.
I think that we have to find the right setting to balance risk/rewards.
On your account try to set CloseAtBreakEvenIfHighestLevel=8
Regards
C
Akinwale (leverconsult)
Sep 27 2012 at 08:46
140 posts
Citrullone posted:
New 1.5.0 has many functions to minimize DD and risk, but on the other side this reduce profitability.
I think that we have to find the right setting to balance risk/rewards.
On your account try to set CloseAtBreakEvenIfHighestLevel=8
Regards
C

thanks. performance improved.
Courage is not the absence of fear,but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear
Matt (BluePanther)
Oct 03 2012 at 14:20
1358 posts
I would like to purchase this one, but find it difficult to locate a site. Went to an Italian site and it seems that the demo is free but the real account must be on IB. I am using FINFX ECN PRO and I do not want to change brokers. Besides, if everyone was on the same broker could that skew results, leading to the broker offering 'less of a good deal'?

Any advice would be appreciated.

BTW, nice account you got here - very attractive returns! :)
Rickyv101
Oct 04 2012 at 13:28
69 posts
I tried tihs EA on different brokers, Hotforex, XEmarket, Pepperstone, Their results are quite different.
I have been testing them for 2+ weeks, It is little too short to say anything, Each broker has 2 accounts. Basically, 2 accounts on same broker with almost same results. but broker VS broker are quite big different.

Hotforex - The worst one, Both accounts make less money and also, always get caught in high level which mean that it is unsafe.
XEmarket - So far, it has the highest profits but it seems that it get caught in high level once awhile. so not very safe.
Pepperstone - It doesn't make as much money as XEmarket, but it is always at the lower level, For longer run, it might make more profits then XEmarket.

My point is that, If you want good results, It is better to go for same broker as Totalgrid Showcase account.

 
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