Vortex Trader PRO (By vortextraderpro)
| Gain : | +2131.88% |
| Drawdown | 27.67% |
| Pips: | 2247.4 |
| Trades | 474 |
| Won: |
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| Lost: |
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| Type: | Real |
| Leverage: | 1:200 |
| Trading: | Automated |
Vortex Trader PRO Discussion
Member Since Mar 31, 2014
192 posts
Feb 08, 2015 at 04:30
hi, how much is this EA and from where can we buy it?
ben@
Member Since Feb 09, 2010
226 posts
Feb 08, 2015 at 07:28
I use them on the same account but just be careful with your lot sizes.
Member Since Feb 03, 2015
84 posts
Feb 08, 2015 at 07:44
bundesrepublik posted:
hi, how much is this EA and from where can we buy it?
You can get a copy here www.vortextraderpro.com/indexPP.html
Feb 08, 2015 at 07:46
I had a huge -110pips dd in a EURUSD long trade on last Friday. I could even reproduce this loser trade in control point backtest. But this trade does not appear in the official forward test. It looks like the vendor stopped this EA before the big news (i.e. US employment rate). I hope Doug will let us know when to stop and restart the EA as he does for Rev Trader.
As for backtest, it matches quite well with the forward test. Looks very promising! I started loving this EA even though I had a big loser trade at the beginning...
As for backtest, it matches quite well with the forward test. Looks very promising! I started loving this EA even though I had a big loser trade at the beginning...
Feb 08, 2015 at 11:35
craneliu posted:1) I use XM Zero (ECN). I still don't have enough data about the broker sensitivity.
Hi JPFX,
thanks for sharing!
I have some concerns:
1) which broker are you using? Is voterx EA sensitive to broker like REV?
2) for the backrest, which data source and spread are you using?
Thanks!
Crane
2) The data source is from Metaquotes and I set spread as 1 (if i remenber correctly. I am not a experienced backtester). I noticed some trades are spread sensitive, which is quite expectable from its strategy.
forex_trader_149646
Member Since Sep 09, 2013
471 posts
Feb 08, 2015 at 14:12
Thank you for sharing your backtest of VTP and Wall Street
https://www.myfxbook.com/strategies/vortextraderprobt-gbp/76831
https://www.myfxbook.com/strategies/wallstreetforexrobotbt-gbp/76839
Wall street made 900 more trades and still comes ahead in the Profit factor 1.99 compared to VTP 1.84
https://www.myfxbook.com/strategies/vortextraderprobt-gbp/76831
https://www.myfxbook.com/strategies/wallstreetforexrobotbt-gbp/76839
Wall street made 900 more trades and still comes ahead in the Profit factor 1.99 compared to VTP 1.84
Feb 08, 2015 at 15:55
Please note that the modeling quality of these backtests is not very good. And I have a feeling that Wallstreet always looks nicer in the backtest than in real trade. Especially recent performance of Wallstreet keeps me disappointed.
After exploring around in MyFxBook, I've found two live accounts that run VortexTrader:
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/TradeNew/synergyfx-hybrid/1149621
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/BestEARobots/vortex-trader-pro-bestearobotscom/1150686
None of them has the loss I experienced. So it can be some broker-dependent problem.
After exploring around in MyFxBook, I've found two live accounts that run VortexTrader:
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/TradeNew/synergyfx-hybrid/1149621
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/BestEARobots/vortex-trader-pro-bestearobotscom/1150686
None of them has the loss I experienced. So it can be some broker-dependent problem.
Member Since Jan 25, 2010
1360 posts
Feb 08, 2015 at 18:36
(edited Feb 08, 2015 at 18:37)
RedRhino posted:
Thank you for sharing your backtest of VTP and Wall Street
https://www.myfxbook.com/strategies/vortextraderprobt-gbp/76831
https://www.myfxbook.com/strategies/wallstreetforexrobotbt-gbp/76839
Wall street made 900 more trades and still comes ahead in the Profit factor 1.99 compared to VTP 1.84
Those points make WSR seem enticing, but for me I don't like WSR...
I guess its due to AHPR and GHPR factors (0.1% compared with VTP of 0.13%)
And although trade duration is almost double that of WSR, VPT has an accuracy over 10% better. I prefer this (though it is interesting to note WSR has a smoother equity curve than that of VPT).
Member Since Jan 05, 2015
145 posts
Feb 09, 2015 at 07:40
BluePanther posted:RedRhino posted:
Thank you for sharing your backtest of VTP and Wall Street
https://www.myfxbook.com/strategies/vortextraderprobt-gbp/76831
https://www.myfxbook.com/strategies/wallstreetforexrobotbt-gbp/76839
Wall street made 900 more trades and still comes ahead in the Profit factor 1.99 compared to VTP 1.84
Those points make WSR seem enticing, but for me I don't like WSR...
I guess its due to AHPR and GHPR factors (0.1% compared with VTP of 0.13%)
And although trade duration is almost double that of WSR, VPT has an accuracy over 10% better. I prefer this (though it is interesting to note WSR has a smoother equity curve than that of VPT).
So over long run best get VTP ;o)
Member Since Jan 05, 2015
145 posts
Feb 09, 2015 at 07:40
maida0922 posted:
I had a huge -110pips dd in a EURUSD long trade on last Friday. I could even reproduce this loser trade in control point backtest. But this trade does not appear in the official forward test. It looks like the vendor stopped this EA before the big news (i.e. US employment rate). I hope Doug will let us know when to stop and restart the EA as he does for Rev Trader.
As for backtest, it matches quite well with the forward test. Looks very promising! I started loving this EA even though I had a big loser trade at the beginning...
I did not get this EUR/USD trade at all like Doug's account. I am using TradersWay as in the USA and matching Both VTP & RTV about as close as one can get to Doug's live accounts.
Feb 09, 2015 at 07:52
maida0922 posted:craneliu posted:1) I use XM Zero (ECN). I still don't have enough data about the broker sensitivity.
Hi JPFX,
thanks for sharing!
I have some concerns:
1) which broker are you using? Is voterx EA sensitive to broker like REV?
2) for the backrest, which data source and spread are you using?
Thanks!
Crane
2) The data source is from Metaquotes and I set spread as 1 (if i remenber correctly. I am not a experienced backtester). I noticed some trades are spread sensitive, which is quite expectable from its strategy.
I've a broker price feed problem with VTP last week, even Doug still have no idea about this problem. I use FXPrimus ECN.
forex_trader_149646
Member Since Sep 09, 2013
471 posts
Feb 09, 2015 at 08:02
(edited Feb 09, 2015 at 08:02)
This live account still has the current EURUSD Short open while Vendor account closed at 0 pips
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/flipperr/7641533-vortex/1152971
Here is a Tick data 2008- 2015 backtest for EURUSD
https://www.myfxbook.com/strategies/vortextraderpro-eurusd/76921
Including 2 Stoplosses that Vendor did not experience
02.12.2014 15:51 02.14.2014 07:02 EURUSD Sell 0.10 1.37005 1.35705 1.35905 1.37005 -110.0 -80.19 1d -1.62%
02.12.2014 15:45 02.14.2014 07:00 EURUSD Sell 0.10 1.36972 1.35672 1.35872 1.36972 -110.0 -80.22 1d -1.59%
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/flipperr/7641533-vortex/1152971
Here is a Tick data 2008- 2015 backtest for EURUSD
https://www.myfxbook.com/strategies/vortextraderpro-eurusd/76921
Including 2 Stoplosses that Vendor did not experience
02.12.2014 15:51 02.14.2014 07:02 EURUSD Sell 0.10 1.37005 1.35705 1.35905 1.37005 -110.0 -80.19 1d -1.62%
02.12.2014 15:45 02.14.2014 07:00 EURUSD Sell 0.10 1.36972 1.35672 1.35872 1.36972 -110.0 -80.22 1d -1.59%
forex_trader_149646
Member Since Sep 09, 2013
471 posts
Feb 09, 2015 at 08:04
Here is another Live account at IC markets that still has the current EURUSD Short open while Vendor account closed at 0 pips
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/CentMan/vortex-trader-pro/1152924
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/CentMan/vortex-trader-pro/1152924
forex_trader_149646
Member Since Sep 09, 2013
471 posts
Feb 09, 2015 at 08:06
And two more live accounts with the EURUSD short still open
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/fxwatanabe3/vortex-trader-pro/1152722
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/BestEARobots/vortex-trader-pro-bestearobotscom/1150686
and here is another account not updated yet, We will have to check back later
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexgermany/vortex-trader-pro/1151662
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/fxwatanabe3/vortex-trader-pro/1152722
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/BestEARobots/vortex-trader-pro-bestearobotscom/1150686
and here is another account not updated yet, We will have to check back later
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexgermany/vortex-trader-pro/1151662
Member Since Jan 25, 2010
1360 posts
Feb 09, 2015 at 10:41
(edited Feb 09, 2015 at 10:53)
My IC Markets demo has EU short closed for 0.6 pips... similar to other ICM accounts.
Not sure why XM still has it open...
That depends on your definition of great... still looks great to me! (compared to all the crap I have seen or tried, ABSOLUTELY!) 😎
Not sure why XM still has it open...
marran posted:
This EA is starting not to look so great right now
That depends on your definition of great... still looks great to me! (compared to all the crap I have seen or tried, ABSOLUTELY!) 😎
forex_trader_149646
Member Since Sep 09, 2013
471 posts
Feb 09, 2015 at 10:51
Vendor closed before all the users though. XM has higher spreads than ICM!!
Feb 09, 2015 at 10:55
BluePanther posted:
My IC Markets demo has EU short closed for 0.6 pips... similar to other ICM accounts.
Not sure why XM still has it open...marran posted:
This EA is starting not to look so great right now
That depends on your definition of great... still looks great to me! (compared to all the crap I have seen or tried, ABSOLUTELY!) 😎
Well my thoughts were that the results were very positive and that was making the EA look great! However subsequent posts are showing differing results
Member Since Jan 25, 2010
1360 posts
Feb 09, 2015 at 10:57
(edited Feb 09, 2015 at 11:01)
RedRhino posted:
Vendor closed before all the users though. XM has higher spreads than ICM!!
Guess that means vendor's broker SynergyFX has better spreads than ICM? Hmmm...
Well my thoughts were that the results were very positive and that was making the EA look great! However subsequent posts are showing differing results
You are welcome to form your own opinion, but don't necessarily base it upon others' opinions only... Do your own due diligence!
