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Reasons why you should NOT trade cryptocurrencies

Dec 15, 2017 at 19:13
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Členom od May 20, 2016   1 príspevkov
Dec 31, 2017 at 10:59
I would like to make some key points:
1. Plenty of crytpocurrencies have a limited supply, fiat currencies have an unlimited supply and consequently continue to depreciate.
2. Crytpocurrencies don't have tax demand, but essentially tax demand is the only thing supporting fiat (that continually depreciates) as fiat is the only 'legal' tender for paying taxes.
3. Some say cryptocurrency is nothing but digital 0s and 1s, but so is most fiat for years upon years now.
4. Cryptocurrencies are more liquid than stocks, bonds, and similar assets. To the best of my knowledge you can't get those funds today if you choose to liquidate, with crypto you can get it today.
5. Some cryptocurrencies may go bust, but so do companies, corporations, banks, and governments.
6. Cryptocurrencies are transactable assets. People can and do make purchases with crypto, they cannot with stocks or bonds.
7. To the best of my knowledge, cryptocurrencies present the fastest and cheapest way to transfer funds globally.

Finally, its my opinion that silver and gold are better MONEY (not currency) than fiat AND cryptocurrency.
Členom od Mar 25, 2016   58 príspevkov
Dec 31, 2017 at 11:34
Drumfool, agree.

Also the news about max leverage in the EU being 30 for forex, will stop a lot of forex trading and shift it to crypto currencies.
Členom od Jan 25, 2010   1360 príspevkov
Dec 31, 2017 at 15:51 (upravené Dec 31, 2017 at 15:57)
@drumfool @johndoe2016
Please stick to FACTS and not CONJECTURE: please provide sources / links to any statements you make.
“Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one but they think each others stink.” - Simone Elkeles

Thank you both for your input.
A friendly reminder: this thread is titled 'Reasons why you should NOT trade cryptocurrencies'.
There is a thread supporting cryptocurrencies by Leo23.
Členom od Jan 25, 2010   1360 príspevkov
Dec 31, 2017 at 16:45 (upravené Dec 31, 2017 at 16:45)
What to watch out for

Cryptocurrencies are not without their pitfalls and you will need to be careful when handling your digital currency.


Before jumping into cryptocurrencies, do your research. No single guide will ever be able to cover everything you need to know about all cryptocurrencies. There are too many to cover in one document and each cryptocoin brings its own pros and cons. Additionally, you will need to understand how exchanges and wallets work. So before you do anything, make sure you read as many guides as you can, find reviews and try everything out with small, disposable amounts of money.

Stay safe

There is no safety net when working with cryptocurrencies. There are no police to make a report to if your money gets stolen; there is no bank to protect your money. With the freedom to do whatever you want with your own money anonymously comes a lot of responsibility. Here are a few tips:
> Before you send cryptocoins to someone, always double check their wallet address.
> Never hand over products or services before the transaction on the blockchain is verified. This might take up to ten minutes on some blockchains.
> Always keep the computer on which your wallet is installed safe and clean from viruses and malware.
> Never lose your wallet password. You might not be able to get it back and every cryptocoin you own will be lost.

Unpredictable value

Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies in general often suffer from sudden dips in value. Whenever purchasing cryptocoins – or investing in them – always be aware that the value of your holdings can fall.

Of course this could work in your favour if it goes the other way. Always be aware that the cryptocurrency market is extremely volatile and past performance is not indicative of future performance.

Členom od Jan 25, 2010   1360 príspevkov
Dec 31, 2017 at 17:38 (upravené Dec 31, 2017 at 17:51)
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Členom od Jan 25, 2010   1360 príspevkov
Dec 31, 2017 at 17:54
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Členom od Jan 25, 2010   1360 príspevkov
Jan 01, 2018 at 08:33 (upravené Jan 01, 2018 at 08:34)

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Členom od Jan 25, 2010   1360 príspevkov
Jan 01, 2018 at 09:51
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Členom od Jan 25, 2010   1360 príspevkov
Jan 01, 2018 at 09:53 (upravené Jan 01, 2018 at 09:54)
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Členom od Jan 25, 2010   1360 príspevkov
Jan 01, 2018 at 13:22
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Exactly as FinanceFeeds predicted, FCA lumps cryptocurrency investment into same category as binary options fraud
Členom od Jan 25, 2010   1360 príspevkov
Jan 02, 2018 at 05:39
“Could we see another global crisis of this type in the future? The bursting of a bubble would have to lead to a sufficiently large wealth loss. An obvious candidate is the bond bubble; and another - perhaps in the future if the corresponding bubble continues to grow - is the Bitcoin.”

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Členom od Jan 25, 2010   1360 príspevkov
Jan 02, 2018 at 07:49 (upravené Jan 02, 2018 at 08:00)
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... A bubble or not?
The Bitcoin debate goes on and on. Some claim it's a bubble. Others say it isn't. Still, others say it can never be a bubble.

The theory of money thesis implies that everyone will want to own bitcoins. At best, that's quite a leap of faith. We've heard the same argument regarding gold countless times. The argument is along the lines of 'If people just put 2% of their assets in gold, it will hit $10,000.' Bitcoin supposedly will hit $1,000,000 when everyone gets in.

So what? Is Bitcoin a commodity? The answer is yes. It has value if for no other reason that people attribute a value to it. Is Bitcoin money or does it function as money?

What happens at every bubble peak is the true believers come out with a cornucopia of reasons why things are not a bubble. So please don't say that Bitcoin cannot be a bubble simply because it has commodity value or because convoluted interpretations of a theory by George Soros say so. The main uses of Bitcoin are undoubtedly speculation, capital flight out of China, and money laundering. Remember the dotcom bubble when speculators were clamoring for leap options on a company called JDSU. The day those options became available marked the top. The fact that Bitcoin futures and ETFs are in the works are more signs of a speculative mania.

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Členom od May 12, 2017   12 príspevkov
Jan 03, 2018 at 07:49
Do not be afraid and trade in cryptocurrencies. While there is such a possibility. But I think it was necessary to start earlier when the crypt was just start it's way. Now it really looks like a bubble that will burst soon (or not). Just don't invest too much of your money in it.
Členom od Jan 03, 2018   12 príspevkov
Jan 04, 2018 at 07:34
Could still be worth a gamble but I agree with RudolfSAnt. Earlier is better with Crypto.
Členom od Jan 25, 2010   1360 príspevkov
Jan 05, 2018 at 13:28 (upravené Jan 05, 2018 at 13:33)
@RudolfSAnt @Skater I agree with you - to an extent. Speculation is fine: if you are happy to speculate on horses, football, casino, HYIPs and Ponzi Schemes, then cryptocurrencies is perfect for you. At least 'gambling' is a regulated industry: HYIPs, Ponzi Schemes and cryptocurrencies largely UNREGULATED.

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CFTC chairman J. Christopher Giancarlo: 'reminded investors that virtual currencies technology is very new and introduced risks such as the “operational risks of unregulated and unsupervised trading platforms; cybersecurity risks of hackable trading platforms and virtual currency wallets; speculative risks of extremely volatile price moves; and fraud and manipulation risks through traditional market abuses of pump and dump schemes, insider trading, false disclosure, Ponzi schemes and other forms of investor fraud and market manipulation.” '

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Členom od Jan 25, 2010   1360 príspevkov
Jan 06, 2018 at 09:55
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Členom od Nov 04, 2017   14 príspevkov
Jan 07, 2018 at 07:49

I differ from this, because the cryptomonedas are the fashionable financial product. In one year its value has multiplied by 17 and in the last three weeks, by two, turning into millionaires many geeks and digital enthusiasts who had invested years ago. No one knows how far it will go and neither do we; The only thing experts agree on is that investing in it now is a great opportunity.
Členom od Oct 27, 2017   20 príspevkov
Jan 07, 2018 at 08:08

Unlike fiat currencies, and even unlike commodities such as gold, which are quasi-monies with a 'reserve of value,' the supply of each currency is theoretically finite and usually known in advance. Blockchain technology keeps track of all existing Bitcoins, including who is the owner (or the ownership key, to be exact) and issues a fixed amount of Bitcoins every 10 minutes to a computer that has contributed a minimum amount of work to maintain the blockchain technology that acts as Bitcoin operating system. Currently, it is known exactly how many Bitcoins exist because each Bitcoin that was created is registered within the Bitcoin system. So if it's good to invest in cryptocurrencies.
Členom od Jan 03, 2018   162 príspevkov
Jan 07, 2018 at 08:19
agree with you Matt
Členom od Jan 06, 2018   6 príspevkov
Jan 07, 2018 at 08:26

The striking growth of bitcoin in recent weeks has not been enough to quell the doubts generated by a market that offers huge returns but is not subject to regulatory controls.
However, the increase in its value has been overshadowed by the explosive rise of a much less known cryptocurrency.
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