any fulltime forex trader here ???

Smokey posted:

rowdy posted:
In over a year you withdrew only $12k. Now unless you're missing half of your wit that tells me that you are not making a living out of it, in fact going to work would have earned much more. So the conclusion is you're doing it as a gamble.

I like your critical approach, but this is not how it works. You cant start trading full time if 18k (the amount i started that account with 16 months ago) is all you got. That would be gambling as you cant afford to loose that money. Having to rely on frequent withdrawals from your trading account for expenses is nuts.

Before you become a full time trader you should build a big buffer (a few years expenses). That way you can create some workcapital you dont need. On the road to that buffer you need to become confident you can be consistently profitable. Trade small, save money.
Before doing this fulltime i simply saved funds from work. As i went to trade equities,funds,bitcoins and forex i grew more confident that i could be consistant. Increase your trade volume as your profitability increases. Once you feel 'safe' and your capital can take a few hits without too much hurt, you can consider becoming a dedicated trader.

Then you're not a full time trader but hoping to become one as you are describing. Then why do you portray yourself as one when you are clearly not one yet and certainly don't make a living from trading yet?
By the way my approach isn't critical. Trading for a living is black or white, you're either doing it or not. Everybody wants to be doing it but rarely someone is doing it. I have yet to see someone's credentials to show they are with at least several years worth of proof. I see some people show that they are making money from other's prescribing to signals etc but non have shown to b making a living from trading itself yet.

xdj3richo posted:
Hiii ,am interested in meeting with people who trade for living ???? is any one here doing it ???

Sure there are plenty of trades who trade for living:)

I live for trading, is that the same thing? 😀

Bob

ForexAssistant posted:
I live for trading, is that the same thing? 😀

Bob

Hopefully yes :)

rowdy posted:
Then you're not a full time trader but hoping to become one as you are describing. Then why do you portray yourself as one when you are clearly not one yet and certainly don't make a living from trading yet?
By the way my approach isn't critical. Trading for a living is black or white, you're either doing it or not. Everybody wants to be doing it but rarely someone is doing it. I have yet to see someone's credentials to show they are with at least several years worth of proof. I see some people show that they are making money from other's prescribing to signals etc but non have shown to b making a living from trading itself yet.

Ok. you dont seem to get it yet, heres my last attempt.
You dont need to withdraw funds every month like a paycheck to be a 'full time trader'. My trading profits cover my expenses and i spend all my worktime to achieve it, thats my definition of a full time trader.

As long as your bankaccount and trading account are in balance it doesnt matter if either one is shrinking or growing: you sustain yourself. The fact i cant use the ATM for my trading account is just a matter of moving money around once in a while. Your financial buffer and/or whether or not you want to compound your returns determine the frequency.

yes , even i live to trade and trade to live

So does that mean everyone is trading for a living yet not one single person can show proof for several years?

Smokey posted:

rowdy posted:
Then you're not a full time trader but hoping to become one as you are describing. Then why do you portray yourself as one when you are clearly not one yet and certainly don't make a living from trading yet?
By the way my approach isn't critical. Trading for a living is black or white, you're either doing it or not. Everybody wants to be doing it but rarely someone is doing it. I have yet to see someone's credentials to show they are with at least several years worth of proof. I see some people show that they are making money from other's prescribing to signals etc but non have shown to b making a living from trading itself yet.

Ok. you dont seem to get it yet, heres my last attempt.
You dont need to withdraw funds every month like a paycheck to be a 'full time trader'. My trading profits cover my expenses and i spend all my worktime to achieve it, thats my definition of a full time trader.

As long as your bankaccount and trading account are in balance it doesnt matter if either one is shrinking or growing: you sustain yourself. The fact i cant use the ATM for my trading account is just a matter of moving money around once in a while. Your financial buffer and/or whether or not you want to compound your returns determine the frequency.

I understood perfectly what you said but your blind to some of the facts you even talked about like you claimed your trading covers your expenses BUT you are not showing withdrawals to justify anything but your alcoholic habits. A bank account is never at risk while any/all profits in a trading account that are not removed is fully at risk at any given time, but you would know that if you were making a living out of trading. So judging by your comments your a full time gambler?

@rowdy bro i jumped into the ocean thinking it a swimming pool and i didnt even knew how to swim but am doing my best , i only wanted to understand some key doubts i had been facing by asking fulltimers but it appears no one is ready to answer anything

rowdy posted:
A bank account is never at risk while any/all profits in a trading account that are not removed is fully at risk at any given time,..

I dont make a difference between funds at my bank and a reputable regulated broker. For me its all one big money pile to pay bills from and to make more with from trading.

Im in control of my risk management, cutting my losses as i see fit. It sounds as if your describing a martingale system with a margin call as stoploss.
Sure eurusd can move 1000 pips in an instant. Like a government can shave your banksavings (ea. Cyprus) or you could get hit by a car, be paralysed and never be able to goto your regular job again. Life isnt riskfree.

The fact nobody is able to show multiyear profitable accounts is worrying. Sadly retail traders are stuck with mostly bucketshops A/B booking clients. Over time performance degrades due to a move to A book and/or slippage/fill tricks being played. With these practises its never smart to run your account that long. Although no matter what, most accounts end up in the ditch either way.

xdj3richo posted:
@rowdy bro i jumped into the ocean thinking it a swimming pool and i didnt even knew how to swim but am doing my best , i only wanted to understand some key doubts i had been facing by asking fulltimers but it appears no one is ready to answer anything

There's a reason for that, and the reason is ................. ?

'So does that mean everyone is trading for a living yet not one single person can show proof for several years? '

Rowdy my friend, Anyone who shows you their income trail is a damn fool. I wouldn't do it and no one should put any income that they make, on the internet for all to see. You're just asking for frivolous laws suits, government tax collectors and every neer-do-well on the prowl to put your money in their sites. You're ridiculing people for being intelligent.

Anyone who shows any real account is only trying to prove something to themselves, not the ones you're looking for. Those of us that don't have anything to prove to ourselves, would certainly not have the desire to prove anything to you as we are the only one who counts. So your question will get you a lot of response but nothing that you had hoped for, I fear.

Bob

the reason they learned it by hardwork and i also have to learn by the same way i guess @rowdy

you can find me
any help you want am here

ForexAssistant posted:
"So does that mean everyone is trading for a living yet not one single person can show proof for several years? "

Rowdy my friend, Anyone who shows you their income trail is a damn fool. I wouldn't do it and no one should put any income that they make, on the internet for all to see. You're just asking for frivolous laws suits, government tax collectors and every neer-do-well on the prowl to put your money in their sites. You're ridiculing people for being intelligent.

Anyone who shows any real account is only trying to prove something to themselves, not the ones you're looking for. Those of us that don't have anything to prove to ourselves, would certainly not have the desire to prove anything to you as we are the only one who counts. So your question will get you a lot of response but nothing that you had hoped for, I fear.

Bob

Then the truth will always be hidden and anyone who claims to be making a living from trading must be called a liar until otherwise proven which is fair enough. But to come on here and brag you are would be meaningless unless proven true.
 I do know one thing Bob that you're not making a living from trading, you're easy to see through.

' I do know one thing Bob that you're not making a living from trading, you're easy to see through.'

I know, embarrassing isn't it? How the hell am I supposed to make a living conniving unsuspecting traders out of their hard earn cash when even the young pups can see right through me.

But I forgive you son, how could you know how bitter the bite of your words tear right through me. The anguish in my soul over being rejected by a total stranger who never gave me a chance.

I know that you lack faith my son and it is up to me to give you that faith, and courage to see through new eyes at a brighter tomorrow through forex trading.

OK, why not?
In this package there is 15 monthly statements on a live mini account on IBFX. It started on April 2008 and closed when FIFO took effect Aug 2009 and we had to go off shore from there. And contrary to popular opinion, I have not been in a coma since that time.

https://www.forex-assistant.com/2008-2009.zip

One more thing, pay attention to the win loss ratio. No, two more things, Life is just a game, try not to take it too seriously.

From the “Wisdom of Bob”, at book outlets everywhere.

@rowdy i know about fxviper he is a manual scalper who makes a living and has a record of 5 years .If u can talk with him then u can your fulltime trader

Rowdy, Dont be so arrogant this guy bob has given you some good advice. Learn to listen, why would anyone have to prove themselves to you?

ForexAssistant posted:
' I do know one thing Bob that you're not making a living from trading, you're easy to see through.'

I know, embarrassing isn't it? How the hell am I supposed to make a living conniving unsuspecting traders out of their hard earn cash when even the young pups can see right through me.

But I forgive you son, how could you know how bitter the bite of your words tear right through me. The anguish in my soul over being rejected by a total stranger who never gave me a chance.

I know that you lack faith my son and it is up to me to give you that faith, and courage to see through new eyes at a brighter tomorrow through forex trading.

OK, why not?
In this package there is 15 monthly statements on a live mini account on IBFX. It started on April 2008 and closed when FIFO took effect Aug 2009 and we had to go off shore from there. And contrary to popular opinion, I have not been in a coma since that time.

https://www.forex-assistant.com/2008-2009.zip

One more thing, pay attention to the win loss ratio. No, two more things, Life is just a game, try not to take it too seriously.

From the “Wisdom of Bob”, at book outlets everywhere.

I love it when common ones like yourself Bobby Boy come up with rubbish trying to convince others of their success.
So you made 2 cents few years go I. I will give you credit for the $40 so I see you live in a dog house, obviously that's what you call 'trading for a living'. That's too much for us here so I might give up my hourly earning to get paid virtually nothing like yourself. You don't have to convince me I know you work hard for your 20cents from your complaining about text and Govt etc

You like the millons on here still fail to show consistent decent earning and withdrawals over a period of over 2 years and until someone shows that go sink you head in hot water and let it burn your eyes and earns since you can't read, then again you're American so I didn't expect decent literacy skills out of you.

By the way Bob's (in our case Bozo) don't come with wisdom they come in dozens in the complaint dept.