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# I want only a safe 4% each month... Which EA?? Thank you

Anmaric_LTD
Feb 15 2013 at 18:53
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Here is the answare for the original question:
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Anmaric_LTD/rhov13/482225

FxMasterGuru (FxMasterGuru)
Feb 15 2013 at 19:39
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optimofx posted:
Well when u talk about leverage, i thought u talk about ratio, BUT , what leverage have to do with Risk ? leverage has nothing to do with risk. Thats's the reason i couldn't trust in ur system, i wonder about risk but u cant answer me because u dont know whats risk.
Leverage dont determine ur risk (only more leverage u CAN be more riskly). Risk is the higher looser a trade can do in ur balance. Risk is determined by ur Stop Loss, ur lots of entrance and ur actual balance.

Your response makes no clear distinction between ABSOLUTE (INTRINSIC) and RELATIVE (EXTRINSIC) risks, and without this distinction I understand that my previous statement might be confusing.

The ABSOLUTE RISK can be determined best by the average loss per trade (in pips) and the historically worst loss (in pips). In other words what to expect in regards to PIP losses (average and worst). This ABSOLUTE risk is determined by the interaction of the algorithm and the market. Since these 'risk values' are in the MyFxBook's statistics, I don't need to comment on them.

What I was referring to was the RELATIVE risk of the two published strategies. Relative risk is in very close relationship with the used LEVERAGE (not to be confused by the available leverage) which determined by the size of your account and the traded number of LOTS. Increasing your leverage increases your risk with the same exact EA, isn't it?

To sum it up: The risk of any strategy is the combination of the INTRINSIC risk of the strategy itself and the EXTRINSIC risk of the leverage used (which is the decision of the individual trader). The risk setting I had mentioned before refers to this EXTRINSIC risk setting, i.e. the used leverage.

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optimofx (optimofx)
Feb 17 2013 at 16:04
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Fx Market Guru says : Increasing your leverage increases your risk with the same exact EA, isn't it?
I repeat u , more leverage, more u can riskly , more lots u can trade, them more leverage not increases ur risk, only u can increase ur risk if u want. Leverage dont determine ur risk. Of course i wondering u about absolute risk, u says ' Since these 'risk values' are in the MyFxBook's statistics, I don't need to comment on them ', but, who wanna a trading without knowing hoy many money or percent balance value can i loss in one trade? i think that noone.

Caution ¡¡ Forex market is full of scams ¡¡
optimofx (optimofx)
Feb 17 2013 at 16:04
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Anmaric that seems good :) Risk per trade ?

Caution ¡¡ Forex market is full of scams ¡¡
Tandem21
Feb 17 2013 at 20:28
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I haven't strictly followed the discussion, but I would strongly argue that higher leverage = higher risk. One the top reasons anyone blows up is because they're risking too much on one trade. Or a black swan happens and you're overleveraged. Etc.

5x leverage, imo, is the most one needs for proper trading (no leverage is even better!). If you feel the need for more than that, then you're likely undercapitalized and a string of losses will seriously hurt you.

FxMasterGuru (FxMasterGuru)
Feb 17 2013 at 20:37
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optimofx posted:
Fx Market Guru says : Increasing your leverage increases your risk with the same exact EA, isn't it?
I repeat u , more leverage, more u can riskly , more lots u can trade, them more leverage not increases ur risk, only u can increase ur risk if u want. Leverage dont determine ur risk. Of course i wondering u about absolute risk, u says ' Since these 'risk values' are in the MyFxBook's statistics, I don't need to comment on them ', but, who wanna a trading without knowing hoy many money or percent balance value can i loss in one trade? i think that noone.

I disagree with you OptimoFx. If you trade more lots with the same capital (i.e. you are using higher leverage) then your PERCENTAGE risk goes up. For example: the Master Account uses 1 minilot per 1000 USD, so 20 pips loss means approx. 2% loss on EUR/USD. Should we trade 2 minilots per 1000 USD, then the same exact 20 pips loss would result in 4% loss. In other words doubling the leverage would double the PERCENTAGE risk of the same 20 pips loss.

The absolute (intrinsic) risk of the strategy is reflected by the average loss, max. loss and max. DD. This strategy's stop loss is a dynamic and self-adjusting value based on market range and volatility, so I cannot give you one number as the stop loss. Historical stop loss values (in pips!) tell what to expect in different market situations. If you are interested I can dig up max. loss values from the backtests, however the max. DD has never exceeded 25% in backtests. As mentioned, the strategy has survided the flash crash of May 2010 (in backtest) and came out with profit from it.

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beoswind
Feb 18 2013 at 07:10
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We all know that Forex is 'controlled' gambling and only brokers and people which run platform for trading make serious EASY money without any risk - all others loose money (more or less depending of experience)

The only way to make serious money and honest money on the web is building small automatic mini websites which each earn about \$1/day from ads

If you build 100 websites (it can be done in 30 days even if you are newbie) you have EASY PASSIVE \$100/day for year after few months when your site start receiving traffic from Google, MSN and Yahoo.

If you want more make 1000 websites - see attached screens as a proof how much a day you can make using this VERY simple but powerful method

As you can see it's possible to get over \$19.000/day and over \$1000/day is no problem at all!

Look at the country list - anybody can do it!

This is not a spam - I don't post any external links - 'JUST' honest answer for serious question

harisyes11 (harisyes11)
Feb 18 2013 at 07:11
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https://www.myfxbook.com/members/harisyes11/haris-munandar/489822

i want to share my system of trade manually😄

forexpipcatcher
Feb 18 2013 at 07:30
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beoswind posted:
We all know that Forex is 'controlled' gambling and only brokers and people which run platform for trading make serious EASY money without any risk - all others loose money (more or less depending of experience)

The only way to make serious money and honest money on the web is building small automatic mini websites which each earn about \$1/day from ads

If you build 100 websites (it can be done in 30 days even if you are newbie) you have EASY PASSIVE \$100/day for year after few months when your site start receiving traffic from Google, MSN and Yahoo.

If you want more make 1000 websites - see attached screens as a proof how much a day you can make using this VERY simple but powerful method

As you can see it's possible to get over \$19.000/day and over \$1000/day is no problem at all!

Look at the country list - anybody can do it!

This is not a spam - I don't post any external links - 'JUST' honest answer for serious question

Finally someone has come to understand forex lol... like I been saying

forexpipcatcher
Feb 18 2013 at 07:33
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harisyes11 posted:
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/harisyes11/haris-munandar/489822

i want to share my system of trade manually😄

LOL what a joke ... any system with trades that don't have a SL is a man waiting to be hanged idiota...
back to the drawingboard

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