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Sam Moore (smoore54321)
Aug 27 2010 at 17:40
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I have a live account posted and would like everyone to track this in the next year or so. I took a 35% hit the first month but there was a technical difficulty with an extremely high leveraged position which should have never happened. Other then that I average about 20% per month on real money. Feel free to contact me if you want. Thanks

Paul Ng (paulng)
Aug 27 2010 at 19:01
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well, if you get hit another time, you will need to double your account just to get back to the original starting balance. seems like you have really huge stop-loss and inverted risk/reward ratio. nothing wrong with that, as long as your plan works in the long run. 20% per month, so if I observe you for 24 months, you should be a millionaire already. I'll invest in the year 2013, if your claim is true. Best of luck.

"The first rule of forecasting should be that the unforeseen keeps making the future unforeseeable." - David McCasland (January 5,2012, Our Daily Bread)
Sam Moore (smoore54321)
Aug 27 2010 at 20:02
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Thank you Paul AKA(SKEPTIC) for the aspiring comments. I see that you have no accounts published and wish to start a fund without any skin in the game. I would like to wager a bet with you on this forum. Have 1 of your accounts published live and let’s trade for 12 months. Let’s put 500k USD in a mutual escrow account and the winner keeps all. With individuals such as yourself makes the next 12 months a true pleasure for individuals to see these live managed accounts grow.

          I don’t wish to create enemies and skeptics are a part of this business and are completely understandable. If you analyze what happened the first week or so into the trade we took a tough loss with 1 single aggressive trade which clearly shows we are nothing short of human. A large order was placed and I closed out those positions from a trader who claimed wonders on a algo that did wonders on play accounts. We cut him off immediately. You being a fellow trader should know that with both of my published account I am dead on with 77% wins. I would like to show full transparency for any future investors. It is important. I will continue to publish other live accounts that are 100k plus live managed accounts with consent of my investors.

         In the meantime Paul AKA(SKEPTIC) keep you’re your negative energy away from me and leave us alone. If you decide to change your mind and give us a shot in the next 12 months we will be happy to work with you after an apology is made for your arrogance. Thank You

PS: Positive energy and live accounts is the only and real way . if you cant hold yourself back from being negative, read a playboy and go to the restroom then jerk off and come out relaxed. Something paul AKA(Skeptic) should have done. Good luck kid

Paul Ng (paulng)
Aug 28 2010 at 05:37
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geez dude, all I did was be the devil's advocate and highlight certain issues that the world audience may want to know. what did I do to deserve all this personal attack? doesn't show much maturity, and definitely not fund manager characteristics. anyway, it's your life and your game. have it your way. kindly quote the statement of my post that you deem arrogant, I didn't realise mathematical statements were arrogant. you said it yourself, 77% wins, and high drawdown on the rare few losers. that's your performance, and nothing to do with my 'arrogance', I'm merely stating facts which you published.

I'll definitely stay away from you, you can rest assured of that. Another mathematical fact, 500k at 20% per month, you really don't need another dollar from other people. you'll be among the richest within a few years, and your loyal fan AKA (skeptic) will still be here watching your performance for 24 months.

This is my final post on this thread, and response to you.
Cheers, and peace dude.

"The first rule of forecasting should be that the unforeseen keeps making the future unforeseeable." - David McCasland (January 5,2012, Our Daily Bread)
Sam Moore (smoore54321)
Aug 29 2010 at 17:06
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Gracias (Thank You) Paul, I never self proclaimed of being a wannabe fund manager. I trade, make money for my investors and that’s it. Draw down’s are a part of the game and we all understand that. There is no excuse. I show transparency and could have hid that or maybe started a bunch of demo accounts. Either way I am looking to establish contacts on this site to create relationships with individuals that want to see the whole picture of trading. This way before you invest you really know what you are getting into instead of most companies trying to portray 1 picture of all good in a system and unbelievable track history.

In my personal opinion you have not 1 spec of credibility to even discuss trading until you can prove you have money to put in the market and show us that you are even worth talking to.I want to say thank you for your positive and worthy comments based on zero experience that I can see. Have a wonderful day.

If there are investors watching and reading these threads please shoot me a message and lets continue to make some money. $50,000.00 minimum to open accounts with OANDA. We will then move all funds to dukascopy in Switzerland. HAVE A BEAUTIFUL DAY!

bluemele
Aug 29 2010 at 17:28
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You do realize you are violating SEC laws by marketing for investors on this platform?

Sorry to send negative energy your way, but just hoping you don't get your pee pee slapped. :) Remember, these threads don't ever get erased and in a court of law (when/if an investor blows the whistle), you will be BUSTED. Carries a jail term and big fine. :)

Just thought I would share, but I am sure you are already aware of that.

Gil

Be Open, honest and ethical and all the $$$ you want will come. (hint hint)
Paul Ng (paulng)
Aug 29 2010 at 17:39
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bluemele posted:
Sorry to send negative energy your way,
Gil


*sigh* I got personal attacks from that guy, even in private message. his whip will be on you next, be careful. I'm so unworthy I've decided to blindfold myself to all his posts. Unless of course he is out to fraud or scam, then it will become every netizen's duty to sound the alarm. But to date, he's still alright in character.

"The first rule of forecasting should be that the unforeseen keeps making the future unforeseeable." - David McCasland (January 5,2012, Our Daily Bread)
bluemele
Aug 29 2010 at 17:48
272 inlägg
paulng posted:
    
bluemele posted:
Sorry to send negative energy your way,
Gil


*sigh* I got personal attacks from that guy, even in private message. his whip will be on you next, be careful. I'm so unworthy I've decided to blindfold myself to all his posts. Unless of course he is out to fraud or scam, then it will become every netizen's duty to sound the alarm. But to date, he's still alright in character.


Yah, well, I could see both sides, but I don't think you were being too critical..haha...

I can take a whipping. So far he has a whopping few days of profitability with a 'claim' of 20%. For such strong verbiage you would think he is vastly profitable, but if I guess if he was, he wouldn't need to advertise for investors.

If you are truly making 20% per month for a while, there is absolutely NO NEED to market for investors. They will find you! :)

That is the crux. If you are a great investor, then why are you on this site? Why am I here if I believe I am a great investor as I could have everything I need already.. :) haha...

He very well could be great. Only time will tell! More time than he has on his accounts through Oanda.... (at least for me..haha)

P.S. Life just isn't that serious.....

Be Open, honest and ethical and all the $$$ you want will come. (hint hint)
Sam Moore (smoore54321)
Aug 29 2010 at 17:57
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Guys, I post real live track history. Have the SEC to get in touch with me and tell me that I cannot do that. I market to investors to watch live accounts. It only takes a couple of people to join and build credibility. Paul is a good guy, don’t get me wrong. He just slapped my penis a little too much. Gil, shoot me the phone number to speak to someone at the SEC so I can speak to them since your probably the first person to give them a call. Gracias (Thank You)

PS: Paul, You’re a good man. But my peepee hurts from your slapping. Talk later gentlemen.

bluemele
Aug 29 2010 at 20:03
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Sam,

If you can't find the SEC #, then I suggest you stop trading. :)

You think it is funny until you get put behind bars. Laugh... I have been part of a couple of investments where they have ended right there for the people who violated laws. I was doing you a favor and hoping you educate yourself on the laws. REG D expressly prohibits what you are doing, whether it be any investors that you obtain from this site. It doesn't matter, you are still violating, along with most likely your State laws as well.

I hope you do have great returns and that you do get lots of investors, but I don't want to pay any more taxes for people who are behind bars, so I hope you follow the laws of the country you are residing and/or citizen of. :)

Your Track History is VERY SHORT. Especially in FOREX. When you have an account that has been opened for 1+ years and 20% month, then you have something. Shoot, with 3% you have something!!!

Your 'cockiness' is nothing more than your 'ego' which shows from the first post to Paul seems fragile. I have never seen a successful trader with a big ego and/or a delicate one. :) Not that you asked or care, but do yourself a favor and stop the cockiness as it will either A) lose your investors money or B) lose you investors. I know, I am an investor... haha

Please disregard these comments if they bring any emotion to you other than happiness. They really aren't worth the bits that are passing through the ether.... :)

Gil


Be Open, honest and ethical and all the $$$ you want will come. (hint hint)
kennyhubbard (compuforexpamm)
Aug 29 2010 at 21:09
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Ya, I feel I have to chip in here......

Sam, everybody here is trying to give things a go and sometimes people are going to comment on your system or trading. If you cannot deal with that then I don't know how you deal with trading for other people.

Given the level of information you have posted, your response to Paul was WAY out of line. Frankly the history you post here is a joke. Nobody cares that you had some difficulties with highly leveraged positions....you managed to wipe out 35% of your account in the first month.....and then you shoot your mouth off like some trailer trash when you get called up on it. I'm sorry, but I think you need a healthy dose of humility.

Sam, you need to realise that you have elected to make your results public on an open forum where they will be scrutinised and remarked upon. I have reviewed what Paul said......and there was nothing incorrect or inflammatory about his remarks. The results published so far do show a decided lack of risk control. In fact, if you were a halfway decent trader you would acknowledge this instead of flaming people who state the obvious.

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Sam Moore (smoore54321)
Aug 29 2010 at 22:18
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Gil, Your such a looser to waste peoples time trying to earn a buck on “Managed Accounts” in which the person has ultimate control. I think the SEC has more to worry about then someone trying to find work and start something on a small scale. I am not a fund nor do I care, I trade FX you dumb ox of an idiot, Last I checked the CFTC website the licensing requirements have not been implemented either. There is no REG D offering since I am not starting a fund nor do I wish to you moron. I am looking to work for investors and I get compensated for profits on a monthly basis. I said my returns were “Consistent” not that I never would have a loosing month either. I am giving so much for an investor to watch my live performance on this site. Something that most traders or manager would never do!
 My track history will show this as the months go on. Go hunt for people on craigslist or something trying to take hard earned investors capital where they don’t know where the F*CK there money is. Where there is NO “Transparency”. There are 100 other berney madoffs out there where our hard earned tax dollars can be spent getting those criminals you FREAK! Go bless another post and craigslist where everyone wants your money and not show you what the heck is going on with it!

Sam Moore (smoore54321)
Aug 29 2010 at 22:22
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By the way, I take it personal because I am passionate about what I do. Because I love to trade and trading is what I do best. I feel I am the best and I think you need that attitude in life. We all have learned lessons from trading and has taught me alot. One thing I hate is when someone knocks somebody down. Its kind of sickening. Like I said in the post before Message me privately if you have nothing nice to say at all. Cheers everyone! Talk next Saturday. I am back to trading!

bluemele
Aug 30 2010 at 04:57
272 inlägg
Sam,

Good luck! I truly do wish you the best on your trading. I only hope you do as well as you say. I was not intending to knock you down, nor send anything negative, but more of a dose of 'be cautious' than anything.

You sound somewhat 'young' in relation to what you are trying to do which is never bad! It is always good to push the envelope. I just hope you remember that when you do, others will be doing it with you. Life is long, Money is always possible, but some mistakes are never erasable. I have been part of investments where my decisions have cost millions. It is an unsettling feeling to 'ruin' some people financially even though they weren't supposed to be risking that much. (Real Estate)

It has changed my perspective many times over and I hope you don't have to ever feel that!

Keep us posted on your success!

Gil

Be Open, honest and ethical and all the $$$ you want will come. (hint hint)
Elkart
Elkart
Aug 30 2010 at 05:23
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I think many people try be money managers well before they should.

-35%, sorry Sam, doesn't matter why you lost it. It's to much. You're trading to heavy to be long term sustainable. What if the same things happen next month?

Sam Moore (smoore54321)
Aug 30 2010 at 05:39
9 inlägg
Thanks Gil, Paul, Kenny and Elkart. Lets just see what happens in the next 12 months. This is a 365 day journey and I have these 2 accounts plus 3 more that will post which those will be averaging anywhere from 1-15% monthly. All different trading styles, Different types of aggressiveness depending on the suitability of the investor. I would not suggest hi returns on a monthly basis for someones life savings. Its bed time for me and the trading Sunday was dead! Have a good evening or morning or afternoon depending on where you live. CHEERS!

Elkart
Elkart
Aug 30 2010 at 05:52
941 inlägg
I was going to say something, but never mind. I'll just mind me own bee's wax...

bluemele
Aug 30 2010 at 12:47
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Elkart posted:
    I was going to say something, but never mind. I'll just mind me own bee's wax...


Yah, I feel the same way. haha... Although, I thought the Sunday session was quite good! haha... I am up quite a bit on all my accounts for a SUNDAY! :) I wish all Sunday's could be this bad. :)

Be Open, honest and ethical and all the $$$ you want will come. (hint hint)
AliaDare
Aug 14 2020 at 10:38
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An investor should first look at what kind of broker he is trading at. Because the broker causes the profit and loss of a trader. I used to trade at a broker whose broker kept their spreads very high during the Sydney session due to which if I opened the trade at that time I would lose profit movement to cover the spread charge. For these reasons, I would often face losses. I am very fortunate to have a reliable and very useful trading broker called Eurotrader. As a trader, I always gather information from this broker.

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