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FuzzyLogic (By Maximilian )

Gain : +1.01M%
Drawdown 84.40%
Pips: 4181.5
Trades 227
Won:
Lost:
Type: Real
Leverage: 1:500
Trading: Unknown

FuzzyLogic Discussion

Fuze
Jan 11 2017 at 06:49
91 posts
rsharpe75 posted:
There's a whole lot of speculation and derisive BS going on here.

At first it's all, 'let's see an ICMarkets account' and now that he's doing one, it's all, 'but the trades aren't exact or why is he showing it now, etc.'

The bottom line is, we should all be adults here. All capable of making our own decisions and doing our own due diligence. It is appreciated that a few of you take the time to expose scammers but complaining about someone doing what you asked him to do is, quite frankly, silly.

Similarly, assuming that he's going to open a tradecopy or managed account is silly because, up to this point, this has not even been mentioned by the guy. Nothing I've seen in all his posts suggests that he is trying to prove something to any of us.

I fear that some people are so blinded by cynicism and/or past experiences that they miss certain things, like open mindedness, opportunities and literally the fact that Madoff is not part of this thread and likening someone to him who isn't selling anything is downright rude.

This is obviously just my opinion ...


And your opinion is much appreciated and welcome. Did you mean the fact that Madoff is or is not part of this thread... Please do not take this personal, we are all entitled to our opinions and are here to express them as well as experiences. My point was that it was not necessary to do what he has done. For sure he is a great trader based on what we've seen so why go thru that. Now that he has done it what's next..... It does not help his case because he's not selling or advertising anything and it does not help you and I because our account does not gain anything from it. So what was the point... To prove that he is legit....why does that matter.... As I said people always have hidden agendas and that is what I'm saying to consider before anyone goes to anything. Nothing against Fuzzylogic or anyone on here. If you feel some type of way about that I'm sorry.

wiseinvest
Jan 11 2017 at 07:27
127 posts
maxulr posted:
By the way, I have already fulfilled the conditions of the challenge. In this month I already have +40%.

wiseinvest posted:
I will gladly up the ante here.. If you can duplicate this performance on a main stream broker, I will send you my i7 notebook and s7 cellphone, to wherever in the world.


wiseinvest posted:
...
My offer still stands, regardless if you need it or not.. I said 'I will send anywhere in the world' so not necessarily to you. I am sure your aunt's gardener will be happy with it.
It is really simple guys.. Go look at the autoproviders here.. between 0 and 30% a month max.



Not even close....As mentioned above the challenge was to 'duplicate' the performance.. ie generate a 75% monthly income with 25% dd on a mainstream broker..
Sofar you have the broker right.. Your DD is spot on, now let's see the 75% monthly gain.
Also, we all know that there are one-month-wonder systems out there, so you might achieve this in one month, but your gainsy account is 15 months old. So I think at least 3 months is for this account is fair then?
So just to recap..

I will gladly up the ante here.. If you can duplicate this performance (DD and % income) on a main stream broker, I will send you my i7 notebook and s7 cellphone, to wherever in the world

My accounts will ALWAYS show high DD. This is done purposely to maximize our withdrawals every week.
rsharpe75
Jan 11 2017 at 14:11
3 posts
Fuze posted:
rsharpe75 posted:
There's a whole lot of speculation and derisive BS going on here.

At first it's all, 'let's see an ICMarkets account' and now that he's doing one, it's all, 'but the trades aren't exact or why is he showing it now, etc.'

The bottom line is, we should all be adults here. All capable of making our own decisions and doing our own due diligence. It is appreciated that a few of you take the time to expose scammers but complaining about someone doing what you asked him to do is, quite frankly, silly.

Similarly, assuming that he's going to open a tradecopy or managed account is silly because, up to this point, this has not even been mentioned by the guy. Nothing I've seen in all his posts suggests that he is trying to prove something to any of us.

I fear that some people are so blinded by cynicism and/or past experiences that they miss certain things, like open mindedness, opportunities and literally the fact that Madoff is not part of this thread and likening someone to him who isn't selling anything is downright rude.

This is obviously just my opinion ...


And your opinion is much appreciated and welcome. Did you mean the fact that Madoff is or is not part of this thread... Please do not take this personal, we are all entitled to our opinions and are here to express them as well as experiences. My point was that it was not necessary to do what he has done. For sure he is a great trader based on what we've seen so why go thru that. Now that he has done it what's next..... It does not help his case because he's not selling or advertising anything and it does not help you and I because our account does not gain anything from it. So what was the point... To prove that he is legit....why does that matter.... As I said people always have hidden agendas and that is what I'm saying to consider before anyone goes to anything. Nothing against Fuzzylogic or anyone on here. If you feel some type of way about that I'm sorry.


Of course you and everyone else are entitled to an opinion, BUT, there is a fine line between opinion and outright calling someone a scammer.

I don't know Max or why he's here and using myfxbook but I do know that many people, like myself, use this service to monitor our own systems and methods. I'm not here to sell anything and if I was doing well I wouldn't care if someone thought I was playing fast and loose with the truth. That's me however. Other people take offense to being called liars and scammers and maybe, just maybe, Max is this type of person. Maybe, just maybe, this is why he started up the ICMarket trades.


Fuze
Jan 11 2017 at 15:16
91 posts
rsharpe75 posted:
Fuze posted:
rsharpe75 posted:
There's a whole lot of speculation and derisive BS going on here.

At first it's all, 'let's see an ICMarkets account' and now that he's doing one, it's all, 'but the trades aren't exact or why is he showing it now, etc.'

The bottom line is, we should all be adults here. All capable of making our own decisions and doing our own due diligence. It is appreciated that a few of you take the time to expose scammers but complaining about someone doing what you asked him to do is, quite frankly, silly.

Similarly, assuming that he's going to open a tradecopy or managed account is silly because, up to this point, this has not even been mentioned by the guy. Nothing I've seen in all his posts suggests that he is trying to prove something to any of us.

I fear that some people are so blinded by cynicism and/or past experiences that they miss certain things, like open mindedness, opportunities and literally the fact that Madoff is not part of this thread and likening someone to him who isn't selling anything is downright rude.

This is obviously just my opinion ...


And your opinion is much appreciated and welcome. Did you mean the fact that Madoff is or is not part of this thread... Please do not take this personal, we are all entitled to our opinions and are here to express them as well as experiences. My point was that it was not necessary to do what he has done. For sure he is a great trader based on what we've seen so why go thru that. Now that he has done it what's next..... It does not help his case because he's not selling or advertising anything and it does not help you and I because our account does not gain anything from it. So what was the point... To prove that he is legit....why does that matter.... As I said people always have hidden agendas and that is what I'm saying to consider before anyone goes to anything. Nothing against Fuzzylogic or anyone on here. If you feel some type of way about that I'm sorry.


Of course you and everyone else are entitled to an opinion, BUT, there is a fine line between opinion and outright calling someone a scammer.

I don't know Max or why he's here and using myfxbook but I do know that many people, like myself, use this service to monitor our own systems and methods. I'm not here to sell anything and if I was doing well I wouldn't care if someone thought I was playing fast and loose with the truth. That's me however. Other people take offense to being called liars and scammers and maybe, just maybe, Max is this type of person. Maybe, just maybe, this is why he started up the ICMarket trades.




I think that you are reading too much into this. Even Fuzzylogic is not as offended as you are and this is his thread....If you read of all my postings I have not call him a liar or scammer. You are upset about the Madoff reference and if you read carefully it does not refer to him being Madoff. The reference was used as an illustration of possibilities... Others may have called him out because of others who have known to be scammer starting out in the same layout. They show a nice account, not selling anything off course, get a lot of followers, and when they get enough request they start a service. Saying that is that saying that he is a scammer. This is just a pattern and it's not new. There is no reason why Fuzzylogic should have to or want to prove anything and that is why I was a little puzzled that he fell into that. You mentioned that you use his services to monitor your own account? what services and how when you have no idea on what basis he trades. You just see the trades and pairs after the fact. How does that help you... Nevertheless continue to do what it is you are doing and stop putting words in my mouth. You have your own way of due diligence and if it works for you, kudos to you.

vontogr (togr)
Jan 11 2017 at 15:23
4862 posts
Lets get back to the facts.
System is performing great and even IcMarkets account results are impressive.
It is easy to label someone scam but there is no reason for such label for this system.
I am in no way related to this system or his owner, I have my own systems which I trust but I feel it is fair to admit that someone is better. I dont need to do it often though:)

Fuze
Jan 11 2017 at 15:37
91 posts
I think that it's a great system as well and have always said that. I wish that everyone here can get to that level. I just didn't understand why fall into this challenge. But great results overall

wiseinvest
Jan 11 2017 at 21:14
127 posts
Guys guys guys.

Let go back and examine this whole thing. This person brought a system, not advertising, but that said, taking lots of emails and pm s. Whether his intent is honest or not, it is impossible to know, and I really couldn't give a fig.

So when he brought a system with awesome results, but a broker we questioned, he considered it a 'challenge' to put the same system on a more reputable broker..

The majority of you are/were so blinded that he accepted the challenge and are back to worshiping him.

But how now brown cow? Yes it was placed on a more reputable broker, but he is not achieving that same six digit percentage returns, instead he blinds you with his +/-50% growth in 2 and a half weeks and you are impressed?

Geez, with the right martingale you could achieve that for a few weeks and then boom, surely you all know that?

And puh leeze, this is NOT cynicism or pessimism or bad experiences or whatever you want to label it..

It is being REALISTIC.



My accounts will ALWAYS show high DD. This is done purposely to maximize our withdrawals every week.
rsharpe75
Jan 12 2017 at 07:49
3 posts
Fuze posted:
rsharpe75 posted:
Fuze posted:
rsharpe75 posted:
There's a whole lot of speculation and derisive BS going on here.

At first it's all, 'let's see an ICMarkets account' and now that he's doing one, it's all, 'but the trades aren't exact or why is he showing it now, etc.'

The bottom line is, we should all be adults here. All capable of making our own decisions and doing our own due diligence. It is appreciated that a few of you take the time to expose scammers but complaining about someone doing what you asked him to do is, quite frankly, silly.

Similarly, assuming that he's going to open a tradecopy or managed account is silly because, up to this point, this has not even been mentioned by the guy. Nothing I've seen in all his posts suggests that he is trying to prove something to any of us.

I fear that some people are so blinded by cynicism and/or past experiences that they miss certain things, like open mindedness, opportunities and literally the fact that Madoff is not part of this thread and likening someone to him who isn't selling anything is downright rude.

This is obviously just my opinion ...


And your opinion is much appreciated and welcome. Did you mean the fact that Madoff is or is not part of this thread... Please do not take this personal, we are all entitled to our opinions and are here to express them as well as experiences. My point was that it was not necessary to do what he has done. For sure he is a great trader based on what we've seen so why go thru that. Now that he has done it what's next..... It does not help his case because he's not selling or advertising anything and it does not help you and I because our account does not gain anything from it. So what was the point... To prove that he is legit....why does that matter.... As I said people always have hidden agendas and that is what I'm saying to consider before anyone goes to anything. Nothing against Fuzzylogic or anyone on here. If you feel some type of way about that I'm sorry.


Of course you and everyone else are entitled to an opinion, BUT, there is a fine line between opinion and outright calling someone a scammer.

I don't know Max or why he's here and using myfxbook but I do know that many people, like myself, use this service to monitor our own systems and methods. I'm not here to sell anything and if I was doing well I wouldn't care if someone thought I was playing fast and loose with the truth. That's me however. Other people take offense to being called liars and scammers and maybe, just maybe, Max is this type of person. Maybe, just maybe, this is why he started up the ICMarket trades.




I think that you are reading too much into this. Even Fuzzylogic is not as offended as you are and this is his thread....If you read of all my postings I have not call him a liar or scammer. You are upset about the Madoff reference and if you read carefully it does not refer to him being Madoff. The reference was used as an illustration of possibilities... Others may have called him out because of others who have known to be scammer starting out in the same layout. They show a nice account, not selling anything off course, get a lot of followers, and when they get enough request they start a service. Saying that is that saying that he is a scammer. This is just a pattern and it's not new. There is no reason why Fuzzylogic should have to or want to prove anything and that is why I was a little puzzled that he fell into that. You mentioned that you use his services to monitor your own account? what services and how when you have no idea on what basis he trades. You just see the trades and pairs after the fact. How does that help you... Nevertheless continue to do what it is you are doing and stop putting words in my mouth. You have your own way of due diligence and if it works for you, kudos to you.


You're making out like I was directly referencing you with my initial message. This wasn't the case at all. I may have made reference to a single thing you said (Madoff) but I was generalizing the atmosphere in this thread. At no point did I put words in your mouth or insinuate that you specifically said something you didn't.

And just to be clear, when I said I use 'this' service, I meant myfxbook and not any service provided by Max.


vontogr (togr)
Jan 12 2017 at 08:10
4862 posts
wiseinvest posted:
Guys guys guys.

Let go back and examine this whole thing. This person brought a system, not advertising, but that said, taking lots of emails and pm s. Whether his intent is honest or not, it is impossible to know, and I really couldn't give a fig.

So when he brought a system with awesome results, but a broker we questioned, he considered it a 'challenge' to put the same system on a more reputable broker..

The majority of you are/were so blinded that he accepted the challenge and are back to worshiping him.

But how now brown cow? Yes it was placed on a more reputable broker, but he is not achieving that same six digit percentage returns, instead he blinds you with his +/-50% growth in 2 and a half weeks and you are impressed?

Geez, with the right martingale you could achieve that for a few weeks and then boom, surely you all know that?

And puh leeze, this is NOT cynicism or pessimism or bad experiences or whatever you want to label it..

It is being REALISTIC.




@wiseinvest
To be wise and realistic you should have compared the perfromance since IC markets inception, which is 22nd DEC.

wiseinvest
Jan 12 2017 at 08:40
127 posts
@togr
and to have so many vouches should mean you are knowledgeable and know what you are talking about.

I think you misunderstand the challenge. I will repeat.. The challenge was to achieve a similar monthly return, once again you are blinded by his immediate performance.

I see a 5% for December he only had 6 trading days. Then for this past 9 trading days there is a 45% growth.

So if he made 45% in less than ten days which is almost equal to his gainsy account for the last ten days is the challenge now completed?

Does this few day old account prove to you and others that he is capable of generating a +40% monthly income?

Do you honestly think that autotrade providers here with their max 10% average monthly income with +/-20% dd can be beaten by a guy who put his strategy up for discussion with a gainsy broker, sporting a 75% income with +/-20% dd?

If so, you should be stripped of your vouches.



My accounts will ALWAYS show high DD. This is done purposely to maximize our withdrawals every week.
FxMasterGuru (FxMasterGuru)
Jan 12 2017 at 13:51
1607 posts
It would be interesting to see an independently verified 'client' account.

Should any MyFxBook member be accepted as a client at any reputable ASIC/FCA broker, please be so kind and post your verified account link to put a closure on this debate.

Why am I being skeptic even with the ICM account? Well, because technically it is possible to create a false verification by 'cloning the MT4 details and data feed on another instance of home made MT4' - quoting an IT tech of a broker. So it is POSSIBLE.

Please click "Vouch" if you liked my post. If not, just put me on your Blocked list. :o)
vontogr (togr)
Jan 12 2017 at 13:52
4862 posts
wiseinvest posted:
@togr
and to have so many vouches should mean you are knowledgeable and know what you are talking about.

I think you misunderstand the challenge. I will repeat.. The challenge was to achieve a similar monthly return, once again you are blinded by his immediate performance.

I see a 5% for December he only had 6 trading days. Then for this past 9 trading days there is a 45% growth.

So if he made 45% in less than ten days which is almost equal to his gainsy account for the last ten days is the challenge now completed?

Does this few day old account prove to you and others that he is capable of generating a +40% monthly income?

Do you honestly think that autotrade providers here with their max 10% average monthly income with +/-20% dd can be beaten by a guy who put his strategy up for discussion with a gainsy broker, sporting a 75% income with +/-20% dd?

If so, you should be stripped of your vouches.




I am not sure what you are talking about,

but as experienced trader I am going to reveal you a secret.

Trading during xmas period is very different than rest of the year, markets are lazy and it is hard to trade. I usually switch my systems off.

@maxulr made a nice profit even during this period. He has my respect. Moreover he did so on reputable broker and verified account.
I dont care about your challenge or what. I am stating he has very good system and he is capable to reproduce the results even on IcMarkets. Thats all I wanted to say to this topic and you can continue to talk whatever you wish.

wiseinvest
Jan 12 2017 at 14:32
127 posts
@togr

It frustrates seven hells out of me when an 'esteemed experienced' trader as yourself gives something like this the thumbs up. Newbies really look up to the 'cool' traders here with their many vouches.

Let me as a super-duper-professional-experienced-skilled-expert-efficient trader shed some light..... trading certain holidays or holiday periods depends on your strategy. Some of mine did well over the Christmas period, but there are traders like yourself that fear this. I even have a strategy that thrives on NFP days - I assume you also switch off then?

So anyone who makes pips over this period has your respect?

A complete newbie who doesn't know the first thing about forex can achieve a 45% income in a few days BUT the challenge is always to keep it and withdraw and do it again, with minimal risk. it is always a case of 3 steps forward and 5 back.

I really frown upon a person like you deeming it a 'very good system'. You are way too easily impressed. And that misleads those who might look up to you.

But hey, I am finally signing off on this, I think I made it very clear what I think of it - if the reader is one of those who disagree and believe I am just trying to be nasty, then 'you can lead a horse to water, but.....'

The only time it will impress me, is if this performance can be kept up for a few months.
With a 75% monthly income he will be the next hot shot. And if it is not martingale he would be able to be an autoprovider..
Investors will queue to invest with him, he will be unbelievably rich in no time.

And this all started from a six digit gainsy percentage account. Likely?

He is quiet of late, probably too busy answering all the PM's and emails of innocent traders that YOUR lack of common sense sent him..

My accounts will ALWAYS show high DD. This is done purposely to maximize our withdrawals every week.
Fuze
Jan 12 2017 at 16:58
91 posts
Hey guys Max is probably laughing his butt off at this debate. Notice how he sits back and says nothing. Let's get back into helping each other if possible. I think we all get it, including newbies, to be aware of people who may want to possible scam you. Do your due diligence before committing to anything. 2017, let us all double our accounts or better

vontogr (togr)
Jan 13 2017 at 08:49
4862 posts
Fuze posted:
Hey guys Max is probably laughing his butt off at this debate. Notice how he sits back and says nothing. Let's get back into helping each other if possible. I think we all get it, including newbies, to be aware of people who may want to possible scam you. Do your due diligence before committing to anything. 2017, let us all double our accounts or better


@Fuze
The thing is that someone label you as scam without any evidence.
I would say lets reveal the real scams and do not mark every successful trader out there.

Maximilian (maxulr)
Jan 18 2017 at 09:59
59 posts
Hi everybody!

Tough day was yesterday, wasn't it? 400 pips for GBPUSD is becoming more like a sort of ordinary things, heh?:)
Trade yesterday was rough, though eventually I managed to come out with minimum losses. After such market I prefer to chill out and keep my head clean, what should I am going to do.

So, what's your results after yesterday's rally?

Miyan X (xperts)
Jan 19 2017 at 07:17
60 posts

maxulr posted:
Hi everybody!

Tough day was yesterday, wasn't it? 400 pips for GBPUSD is becoming more like a sort of ordinary things, heh?:)
Trade yesterday was rough, though eventually I managed to come out with minimum losses. After such market I prefer to chill out and keep my head clean, what should I am going to do.

So, what's your results after yesterday's rally?



The EA i was using with GBPUSD bias blew two of my Demo Accounts as it persistently traded on the opposite of the market, I however made some money on my real account going with the trend to fill up that huge gap from the weekend.

Lost faith in the EA which was doing pretty well otherwise, but failed this 200 pip test....

Maximilian (maxulr)
Jan 20 2017 at 12:12
59 posts
Hi everybody!

This one addressees to one guy, Alex, who's account in IC Markets I'm currently managing (or used to, I don't know now).

Where are you man? I cannot access your account since yesterday and you don't answer in Skype\Messages.

What's wrong? I know, that you're hanging here around. Contact me ASAP.

FxMasterGuru (FxMasterGuru)
Jan 22 2017 at 07:40
1607 posts
maxulr posted:
Hi everybody!

This one addressees to one guy, Alex, who's account in IC Markets I'm currently managing (or used to, I don't know now).

Where are you man? I cannot access your account since yesterday and you don't answer in Skype\Messages.

What's wrong? I know, that you're hanging here around. Contact me ASAP.


I guess Alex did not like the mentioned HUGE drawdown on GBPUSD... 😀

What else...? Why would Alex quit such a miracle trader without a word and so abruptly...?

Of course, it is easy to hide LARGE INTRADAY DRAWDOWNS by disconnecting the account from MT4 until after the DD is over and the trade is closed at a decent SL or in profit. IT IS AN OLD TRICK TO HIDE DANGEROUS DRAWDOWNS by DANGEROUS STRATEGIES.

Please click "Vouch" if you liked my post. If not, just put me on your Blocked list. :o)
Maximilian (maxulr)
Jan 23 2017 at 15:33
59 posts
Hello again. This guy still hasn't reply. I decided that in order to stop this unnecessary chatting, I shall open my history and you will see it. I warn everyone that this guy is @DRLOOSE. At least it is not good to keep ignoring. Maybe he thus scams and doesn't want to pay for account managing. If he offers his account to someone to manage, don't repeat my mistake, my advise is to stay away from him.

@FxMasterGuru you're such an experienced here, however even if you hide intraday history and disconnect account for a day or two and then connect it again, MFB will then anyway show your real DD. Yes I sometimes experience DD's, I am not God and I have never said that I don't have drawdowns, it is strange to me why do you find it so funny that I have DD's. But my income progress is several times bigger than drawdown. My account is not like having average monthly profit of 6% with DD figure about 10% (and this is not the worse case yet).

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