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Vortex Trader PRO (By vortextraderpro)

Gain : +2131.88%
Drawdown 27.67%
Pips: 2247.4
Trades 474
Won:
Lost:
Type: Real
Leverage: 1:200
Trading: Automated

Vortex Trader PRO Discussion

jesus
Feb 04 2015 at 22:31
10 posts
Doug,

I see 1.804 pips in 21 months (218 trades)-

I also see that it is not a swing trader, so if we add 200 pips less for broker slipage, etc (not much) we have 1.600 pips in 21 months.
That is less than 80 pips per month.
To make 1,400% benefit with 80 pips per month you must use a really risky money management strategy.
What can you say about these facts?

aeronthomas (aeronthomas)
Feb 04 2015 at 22:42
1557 posts
he's using fixed lots 3 on an initial $3,000 account so about 10 times the risk I would normally use, i.e. 0.1 lot per $1,000. I guess if your win percentage is so high you would be tempted to risk a lot more per trade which is what he's done. Thanks for answer re: paypal, I have had dramas with getting refunds through paypal before as they don't allow refunds on electronic products, happy to monitor the live accounts on here for a while, and hopefully CB is available soon and can then purchase.

Would be great to hear explanation as to why commissions are zero, is this using the special Donna Forex feed with higher spread no commissions or another special type of feed Synergy set up for you? (this would also explain the ticket nos...). thanks

Batcheler (Batcheler)
Feb 04 2015 at 23:27
200 posts
He did same thing with RTP, disproportionately large lots to start, impossible odds to commence on.

He says he was/is involved in Pro trading and uses his tactics in these EA creations. I might be having an Aha moment as to why he can come up with such prolific incredible EAs. He even says he can modify software depending on market. It all seems too magic like, in all these 10yrs of sniffing & hunting for EAs of ok quality, I never seen it this good.

My Aha is Discipulus machine code (rmltech.com). He either is part of TSL (tradingsystemslab.com. Might have TSLs domain name off slightly while trying to remember while typing) which uses Discipulus (fund management quality results for $20,000/yr) or he pays that lease, or he uses Discipulus ($6,000 per 101 code blocks created from it for 101 EAs w/ dll).
No human can do this well by his 'Doug Price' self (pseudo name?), but that may be just what it seems to me, don't know, maybe just ONE conjecture.
So it all quite probably be for real, and with incredible means at its foundation. It very well could be a masked hero (Masked as 'Doug Price') to bring to the retail fx little guy what high caliber computer systems would ordinarily give to only big ticket fund managers.
Just a lite shining as to what this all may be, or, I admit, I may be completely out in left field. Suddenly seemed like this in my looking over possibilities with Discipulus, which, by the way, is quite out of reach for us little fx peons anymore.

don't believe 99.9% of the EA e-ads out there my friends!
jesus
Feb 05 2015 at 00:24
10 posts
Batcheler posted:
He did same thing with RTP, disproportionately large lots to start, impossible odds to commence on.

He says he was/is involved in Pro trading and uses his tactics in these EA creations. I might be having an Aha moment as to why he can come up with such prolific incredible EAs. He even says he can modify software depending on market. It all seems too magic like, in all these 10yrs of sniffing & hunting for EAs of ok quality, I never seen it this good.

My Aha is Discipulus machine code (rmltech.com). He either is part of TSL (tradingsystemslab.com. Might have TSLs domain name off slightly while trying to remember while typing) which uses Discipulus (fund management quality results for $20,000/yr) or he pays that lease, or he uses Discipulus ($6,000 per 101 code blocks created from it for 101 EAs w/ dll).
No human can do this well by his 'Doug Price' self (pseudo name?), but that may be just what it seems to me, don't know, maybe just ONE conjecture.
So it all quite probably be for real, and with incredible means at its foundation. It very well could be a masked hero (Masked as 'Doug Price') to bring to the retail fx little guy what high caliber computer systems would ordinarily give to only big ticket fund managers.
Just a lite shining as to what this all may be, or, I admit, I may be completely out in left field. Suddenly seemed like this in my looking over possibilities with Discipulus, which, by the way, is quite out of reach for us little fx peons anymore.


Very nice story

Batcheler (Batcheler)
Feb 05 2015 at 00:59
200 posts
jesus posted:
Batcheler posted:
He did same thing with RTP, disproportionately large lots to start, impossible odds to commence on.

He says he was/is involved in Pro trading and uses his tactics in these EA creations. I might be having an Aha moment as to why he can come up with such prolific incredible EAs. He even says he can modify software depending on market. It all seems too magic like, in all these 10yrs of sniffing & hunting for EAs of ok quality, I never seen it this good.

My Aha is Discipulus machine code (rmltech.com). He either is part of TSL (tradingsystemslab.com. Might have TSLs domain name off slightly while trying to remember while typing) which uses Discipulus (fund management quality results for $20,000/yr) or he pays that lease, or he uses Discipulus ($6,000 per 101 code blocks created from it for 101 EAs w/ dll).
No human can do this well by his 'Doug Price' self (pseudo name?), but that may be just what it seems to me, don't know, maybe just ONE conjecture.
So it all quite probably be for real, and with incredible means at its foundation. It very well could be a masked hero (Masked as 'Doug Price') to bring to the retail fx little guy what high caliber computer systems would ordinarily give to only big ticket fund managers.
Just a lite shining as to what this all may be, or, I admit, I may be completely out in left field. Suddenly seemed like this in my looking over possibilities with Discipulus, which, by the way, is quite out of reach for us little fx peons anymore.


Very nice story

:)

don't believe 99.9% of the EA e-ads out there my friends!
tomalf66
Feb 05 2015 at 07:31
4 posts
Doug can you compare RTP to this? Would you say this is a better system, or what are the differences between the two aside from just trading one pair. Looking to buy this .....

SpongetoothMan
Feb 05 2015 at 07:33
2 posts
Guys what with all the animosity? Dang!! i usually don't get involved in these forums but i had to join just to say this:

easy on Doug. if you don't want to try it then don't. no big deal.

my quick bio: trader for 8 years and strategy programmer mostly for TradeStation easy language, the most i have made in a day is $14k and the most i have lost in a day is $7k (if any one cares).

i don't know if Doug Price is his real name (does that really matter?) and i also don't know if you can fool myfxbook's verifying system( that's a question you can look up the answer to on this website). But what i do know is that i have been the Rev trader pro since early nov 2014 (about 3 1/2 months) and i have been comparing my actual trades with the ones shown on myfxbook's and they are almost identical. when there is a difference my account usually does slightly better (im not sure why but i think its because we are using rev trader 2.5 update now).

 i am not doing the crazy disproportionately large lot sizes, compared to my account size, that the ea was doing in the first months of Doug's trading. (Mine is set to risk a max of 5% of my account per trade but you can set it to what you like) And i have done extremely well. my account went up 15% last month alone. I too have spent years writing code for myself and for my friend and i wish i would have wrote something like the Rev trader.

You guys have obviously not used rev trader or you would't be yaking negative things about it. You can try it for a month and if you are not happy then you can get your money back. Nothing lost. Use it on a demo account and set it just like you would your live account and compare it to the myfxbooks result and see if you think its for real.

Or if you want to go the cheapo depot route: check the myfxbooks website every 15 minutes or so and if you see the 'open trades' (you will notice that doug allows his open trades to be seen, unlike other ea's being verified on this website) and as soon as you see that a trade was entered- enter that same trade on a demo account and close it when you see that its closed on the myfxbooks. then you will not be able to deny that the data is real because you verified it yourself on the fly.

i don't know if this vortex ea will work for me but i am going to try it and i will let this forum know. I do however trust the myfxbooks data because i have compared it myself to my live data but i suspect some may think im just yaking too. what ever its all good.

and about Doug: i have been pleasantly surprised that he has answered my question directly through skype in a live chat back in November. and he has sent out email to alert us to the big news break from last week and the swissy decision and recommended to turn of the bot until the market settled. i though that was helpful information

well I hope this helps

archangelsky (archangelsky)
Feb 05 2015 at 07:33
29 posts
This EA make me think of 4 Indicators EA. I got the special version of 4 Indicators scalping EA which is also have a very high winning percentage rate!!!

When it comes to trading, only the persistent survive!
Rooi
Feb 05 2015 at 07:40
38 posts
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RedRhino
Feb 05 2015 at 13:42
471 posts
Not many trades to analyze over the course of a few years. A hard stoploss of 110 pips with a take profit of 20 pips at best with average 10 pips results in a Risk 10 to earn 1 on average with Risk 5 to earn 1 potential. Follow the trend with Sell at previous verified resistance and average down. Give me 1 week and I'll have plenty more for you.




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