Don't kid with leverage..

Jul 25, 2014 at 13:29
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22 Replies
Igor123472
forex_trader_75987
Mitglied seit May 02, 2012   117 Posts
Jul 25, 2014 at 13:29

This picture resumes how 90% of traders (us...) lose money thanks the leverage..

the boy sitting down is you... the other boy sliding around is ruining your tradings... 😄

Mitglied seit Feb 22, 2011   4862 Posts
Jul 25, 2014 at 20:51
Leverage is double edged sword.
But if you limit your loss with other tools then leverage is your friend.
Mitglied seit Jun 13, 2014   101 Posts
Jul 26, 2014 at 13:57
Leverage is very dangerous. It is more likely to cut you than not.
Never Give Up!
Mitglied seit Apr 19, 2014   16 Posts
Jul 27, 2014 at 19:02
Leverage factor can be eliminated when one can define their trading risk percentage and define the pips they can lose in a trade.
This way it doesn't matter whether the leverage is 1:50 or 1:500, the lose is limited to the percentage of the account size.

Calculator https://www.alpari.com/research-tools/calculators
There is nothing lost or wasted in this life
Mitglied seit Feb 22, 2011   4862 Posts
Jul 27, 2014 at 21:46
forexwiz posted:
Leverage factor can be eliminated when one can define their trading risk percentage and define the pips they can lose in a trade.
This way it doesn't matter whether the leverage is 1:50 or 1:500, the lose is limited to the percentage of the account size.

Calculator https://www.alpari.com/research-tools/calculators
Not exactly with the low leverage the loss is determined by margin call
msglamb
forex_trader_196914
Mitglied seit Jun 26, 2014   5 Posts
Jul 28, 2014 at 06:30
leverage is a beast
Mitglied seit Nov 29, 2013   99 Posts
Jul 28, 2014 at 06:40
togr posted:
Leverage is double edged sword.
But if you limit your loss with other tools then leverage is your friend.

totally agreed
Mitglied seit Apr 19, 2014   16 Posts
Jul 28, 2014 at 19:35
Leverage is a dangerous beast that can be tamed by defining or limiting the loss you are willing to take. Togr also made good points too.

BTW, I like the video
There is nothing lost or wasted in this life
myfxpt
forex_trader_43716
Mitglied seit Aug 06, 2011   345 Posts
Jul 30, 2014 at 21:35
Of course leverage is dangerous. But we're not here because it's safe, are we? 😎
Mitglied seit Jun 09, 2014   138 Posts
Aug 01, 2014 at 21:29
Dangerous, yes, but thats part of the risk factor no?
Mitglied seit Feb 10, 2013   5 Posts
Aug 02, 2014 at 14:29
yes I agree that leverage is a double-edged sword, but I use I take rsique. I investirpeut money in my account tradng I have a leverage effect 1:1000 it is allowing me to gain aditional money each month to supplement my income.
usd/eur
Mitglied seit Mar 19, 2014   2 Posts
Aug 02, 2014 at 14:32
I've always felt that newer folks fall under the spell of being provided 500:1 leverage and thinking they need to use it all simply because 'it's there'.

My trading really turned around when I realized that leveraging yourself out over 10:1 for the majority of the times you interact with the market is difficult to manage in the long run (in terms of managing risk and capital exposure over time).

Jake
myfxpt
forex_trader_43716
Mitglied seit Aug 06, 2011   345 Posts
Aug 02, 2014 at 21:20
FOREXunlimited posted:
I've always felt that newer folks fall under the spell of being provided 500:1 leverage and thinking they need to use it all simply because 'it's there'.

My trading really turned around when I realized that leveraging yourself out over 10:1 for the majority of the times you interact with the market is difficult to manage in the long run (in terms of managing risk and capital exposure over time).

Jake

Agree! Leverage is like the bank overdraft a business uses to manage cashflow...just because it's there, doesn't mean you to have to use all of it, all the time. 😎
Mitglied seit Jul 22, 2014   36 Posts
Aug 03, 2014 at 06:26
I emptied by account with 2000:1 , 3 times in last 5 months
Now, i am happy with 50:1 and it is doing great for me |

Prachait
Forex - Currency Trading is for Living |
Mitglied seit Nov 29, 2013   99 Posts
Aug 03, 2014 at 09:53
prachait posted:
I emptied by account with 2000:1 , 3 times in last 5 months
Now, i am happy with 50:1 and it is doing great for me |

Prachait

wow 3 times... you should have learned the lesson when its happened at first time.
i believe that was not leverage's fault. you just need to learn MM / risk
leverage really doesn't matter.

50:1 doing great of course... even you get stop outed you still have balance left. but whats the point? it means your system is not working already. why you care 2000:1 or 50:1

50:1 really sucks. it limits strategies and required high capital to start.

low leverage only for people who don't know how to SL trades ,lets let broker stop for you.
there is no tell low leverage = safer , it makes no sense.
EricRodemai
forex_trader_8415
Mitglied seit Mar 09, 2010   3 Posts
Aug 03, 2014 at 11:02 (bearbeitet Aug 03, 2014 at 11:02)
Leverage is not actually what one should be afraid of. I would be much more concerned about used risk management strategies...
Mitglied seit Apr 19, 2014   16 Posts
Aug 04, 2014 at 06:43
kanon103 posted:
prachait posted:
I emptied by account with 2000:1 , 3 times in last 5 months
Now, i am happy with 50:1 and it is doing great for me |

Prachait

wow 3 times... you should have learned the lesson when its happened at first time.
i believe that was not leverage's fault. you just need to learn MM / risk
leverage really doesn't matter.

50:1 doing great of course... even you get stop outed you still have balance left. but whats the point? it means your system is not working already. why you care 2000:1 or 50:1

50:1 really sucks. it limits strategies and required high capital to start.

low leverage only for people who don't know how to SL trades ,lets let broker stop for you.
there is no tell low leverage = safer , it makes no sense.

The guy is just being honest about his trading and is nothing to be embarrassed about past failings. The key is to learn from our mistakes and become better trader similar to a toddler who has to fall many times before learning to walk.
There is nothing lost or wasted in this life
msglamb
forex_trader_196914
Mitglied seit Jun 26, 2014   5 Posts
Aug 04, 2014 at 12:49
Leverage is not the problem if you define your stoploss and risk amount you have no problem...its when you use high leverage without a stoploss and you add to your position creating the beast.
Igor123472
forex_trader_75987
Mitglied seit May 02, 2012   117 Posts
Aug 04, 2014 at 12:56
prachait posted:
I emptied by account with 2000:1 , 3 times in last 5 months
Now, i am happy with 50:1 and it is doing great for me |

Prachait

@prachait CONTRAGUTALION ! use small leverage brings profitable returns. I also had experienced about. For example, using a leverage 500:1 i blow up my account. But if i use a leverege of 100:1 my account doubles up.

In a way, leverage is not the real demon , the problem is learn Money management.
Mitglied seit Jul 22, 2014   36 Posts
Aug 04, 2014 at 19:18
@Igor123472 Thanks | and with 50:1 I have given the Money Management to the server | 😇 😀
Now, I do the Analysis and place the pending orders with Currency Movement, News, Correlation etc .

Once the time hit the number, the order will auto get place and get completed too |

1% daily is the minimum I am earning now with manual trading |
Looking forward to double the account now |

Thanks Prachait
Forex - Currency Trading is for Living |
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