
Jul 25 2014 at 13:29
This picture resumes how 90% of traders (us...) lose money thanks the leverage..
the boy sitting down is you... the other boy sliding around is ruining your tradings... 😄
vontogr
(togr)
Member Since Feb 22, 2011
4862 posts
Jul 25 2014 at 20:51
Leverage is double edged sword.
But if you limit your loss with other tools then leverage is your friend.
But if you limit your loss with other tools then leverage is your friend.
Leverage is very dangerous. It is more likely to cut you than not.
Never Give Up!
Leverage factor can be eliminated when one can define their trading risk percentage and define the pips they can lose in a trade.
This way it doesn't matter whether the leverage is 1:50 or 1:500, the lose is limited to the percentage of the account size.
Calculator https://www.alpari.com/research-tools/calculators
This way it doesn't matter whether the leverage is 1:50 or 1:500, the lose is limited to the percentage of the account size.
Calculator https://www.alpari.com/research-tools/calculators
There is nothing lost or wasted in this life
vontogr
(togr)
Member Since Feb 22, 2011
4862 posts
Jul 27 2014 at 21:46
forexwiz posted:Not exactly with the low leverage the loss is determined by margin call
Leverage factor can be eliminated when one can define their trading risk percentage and define the pips they can lose in a trade.
This way it doesn't matter whether the leverage is 1:50 or 1:500, the lose is limited to the percentage of the account size.
Calculator https://www.alpari.com/research-tools/calculators

Jul 28 2014 at 06:30
leverage is a beast
togr posted:
Leverage is double edged sword.
But if you limit your loss with other tools then leverage is your friend.
totally agreed
Leverage is a dangerous beast that can be tamed by defining or limiting the loss you are willing to take. Togr also made good points too.
BTW, I like the video
BTW, I like the video
There is nothing lost or wasted in this life

Jul 30 2014 at 21:35
Of course leverage is dangerous. But we're not here because it's safe, are we? 😎
jotekfinance
Member Since Jun 09, 2014
138 posts
Aug 01 2014 at 21:29
Dangerous, yes, but thats part of the risk factor no?
soumadamou
Member Since Feb 10, 2013
5 posts
Aug 02 2014 at 14:29
yes I agree that leverage is a double-edged sword, but I use I take rsique. I investirpeut money in my account tradng I have a leverage effect 1:1000 it is allowing me to gain aditional money each month to supplement my income.
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FOREXunlimited
Member Since Mar 19, 2014
2 posts
Aug 02 2014 at 14:32
I've always felt that newer folks fall under the spell of being provided 500:1 leverage and thinking they need to use it all simply because 'it's there'.
My trading really turned around when I realized that leveraging yourself out over 10:1 for the majority of the times you interact with the market is difficult to manage in the long run (in terms of managing risk and capital exposure over time).
Jake
My trading really turned around when I realized that leveraging yourself out over 10:1 for the majority of the times you interact with the market is difficult to manage in the long run (in terms of managing risk and capital exposure over time).
Jake

Aug 02 2014 at 21:20
FOREXunlimited posted:
I've always felt that newer folks fall under the spell of being provided 500:1 leverage and thinking they need to use it all simply because 'it's there'.
My trading really turned around when I realized that leveraging yourself out over 10:1 for the majority of the times you interact with the market is difficult to manage in the long run (in terms of managing risk and capital exposure over time).
Jake
Agree! Leverage is like the bank overdraft a business uses to manage cashflow...just because it's there, doesn't mean you to have to use all of it, all the time. 😎
Prachait Saxena
(prachait)
Member Since Jul 22, 2014
36 posts
Aug 03 2014 at 06:26
I emptied by account with 2000:1 , 3 times in last 5 months
Now, i am happy with 50:1 and it is doing great for me |
Prachait
Now, i am happy with 50:1 and it is doing great for me |
Prachait
Forex - Currency Trading is for Living |
prachait posted:
I emptied by account with 2000:1 , 3 times in last 5 months
Now, i am happy with 50:1 and it is doing great for me |
Prachait
wow 3 times... you should have learned the lesson when its happened at first time.
i believe that was not leverage's fault. you just need to learn MM / risk
leverage really doesn't matter.
50:1 doing great of course... even you get stop outed you still have balance left. but whats the point? it means your system is not working already. why you care 2000:1 or 50:1
50:1 really sucks. it limits strategies and required high capital to start.
low leverage only for people who don't know how to SL trades ,lets let broker stop for you.
there is no tell low leverage = safer , it makes no sense.

Aug 03 2014 at 11:02
Leverage is not actually what one should be afraid of. I would be much more concerned about used risk management strategies...
kanon103 posted:prachait posted:
I emptied by account with 2000:1 , 3 times in last 5 months
Now, i am happy with 50:1 and it is doing great for me |
Prachait
wow 3 times... you should have learned the lesson when its happened at first time.
i believe that was not leverage's fault. you just need to learn MM / risk
leverage really doesn't matter.
50:1 doing great of course... even you get stop outed you still have balance left. but whats the point? it means your system is not working already. why you care 2000:1 or 50:1
50:1 really sucks. it limits strategies and required high capital to start.
low leverage only for people who don't know how to SL trades ,lets let broker stop for you.
there is no tell low leverage = safer , it makes no sense.
The guy is just being honest about his trading and is nothing to be embarrassed about past failings. The key is to learn from our mistakes and become better trader similar to a toddler who has to fall many times before learning to walk.
There is nothing lost or wasted in this life

Aug 04 2014 at 12:49
Leverage is not the problem if you define your stoploss and risk amount you have no problem...its when you use high leverage without a stoploss and you add to your position creating the beast.

Aug 04 2014 at 12:56
prachait posted:
I emptied by account with 2000:1 , 3 times in last 5 months
Now, i am happy with 50:1 and it is doing great for me |
Prachait
@prachait CONTRAGUTALION ! use small leverage brings profitable returns. I also had experienced about. For example, using a leverage 500:1 i blow up my account. But if i use a leverege of 100:1 my account doubles up.
In a way, leverage is not the real demon , the problem is learn Money management.