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Mathias88
Nov 23 2020 at 11:06
24 príspevkov
VancouverRain posted:


https://55brokers.com/forex-brokers-vanuatu-vfsc/


you posted a link here that has a title

Forex Trading: Why Avoid Brokers from Vanuatu
December 19, 2018 at 05:34 PM

so on the one hand you are trying to say that vanuatu brokers are bad, on the other hand, do you want to say you went to trade or invest with a broker without checking the information on the internet in advance?
this post is from 2018. i believe that every post on the internet is a personal opinion of someone and does not necessarily correspond to reality, but again...
as a client, you should have known where you came from, especially if you agree with the post you mentioned.
Mathias88
Nov 23 2020 at 11:20
24 príspevkov
VancouverRain posted:
Emailed the broker a few times to ask for any proof of records of those orders actually been sent through interbank to the market....and of course! Nothing is answered! They are telling me I accept all the risks, terms of condition when I sign up with them.

interesting. you said you were not answered, and then you said they did. of course it is not a thread of the broker's discussion, but since you mentioned it will be interesting to know what were the broker's explanation exactly, not just from your words.
i know that brokers generally do not provide records of interbank orders. have you traded with another broker before? did they give you such info? if so, where? just curious, never faced that before
Thomas (VancouverRain)
Nov 23 2020 at 12:06
11 príspevkov
My questions were not answered! They were just telling me to read again the document I signed when I registered.
We are dealing with a 10 million dollars 'mistake' or fraud' here. Of course, non of the brokers will not show their books at anyone's request...and we are not talking about a few hundred dollars win or loss.
Tony's loss makes nonsense....it is simply a scam deal by this broker. No one can see where the orders been sent to, or the money has gone to. Just a short story about a fund manager who was sick and took pills....forgot to set stoploss. Ops! Here goes 10 million dollars to the broker.
MP_89
Nov 23 2020 at 14:43
47 príspevkov
Prest posted:
MP_89 posted:


what is utopia? making profit is utopia? a properly configured advisor is utopia? trading with an ea is utopia? then the whole forex is utopia 😁😁
accept this difficult life, Richi boy that you live in a world of modern technology. where you no longer need to sit for days at the monitor and wait for the market rollback, because you 'chose the wrong side'. thanks to ea trading has become much easier.
if you're so high on masochism and dont sleep at night because of the open trade ... well suffer further.
and I'll make a profit in a less energy-intensive way.


Advisors are created for traders who are afraid to make decisions, take responsibility and want to shift it to artificial intelligence. But you forget that any AI is what a human creates. This is a list of rules that can also contain errors. And you say that this bunch of code can survive in a market that is absolutely dependent on the psychology and behavior of humans? ahah 😂

and this is being told to me by a prehistoric man who, i suppose, still cannot believe all these 'new technologies' and draws a market chart by hand. Richi dear don't make me laugh. 😁😁😁
what can someone like you know about artificial intelligence or the work of advisors?
MP_89
Nov 23 2020 at 14:50
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oportunis posted:
MP_89 posted:
Samuelkoi posted:
MP_89 posted:
Samuelkoi posted:
MP_89 posted:
tony do you really lost? your fxbook doesn't update so...maybe it's even better. want to remember you as profitable guy you know 😉
why sl were not set? what happend with money managment? if you started cooperating with me and bought ea, it wouldn't have happened.
all this manual trading never lead to anything good...but ea is a mechanism it can't make mistakes.
therefore i'm using the advisor now. recently bought one, by the way. profitable enough. has already raised 100% of my deposit.

imo a EA is not a solution to the problems a trader may face. Trading with a EA includes constant monitoring of its work and does not relieve the trader of his duties.
Manual trading and EA trading show different results in different market conditions, so it is impossible to determine a favorite.

what the nonsense are you talking about??? ea's specialy created so there is no need to monitor transactions with it. its aaways necessary to monitor with manual trading. but not with advisor.
dude, have you ever used ea at all? 😉 cause i have the feeling it's not.
sure you need buy a really high-quality advisor. it’s really hard to find one. but possible.
so in my opinion eas’ are much better then the manual trading.

I just wanted to say that different tasks require different solutions. EA trading is not for everyone.
But you claim that trading with EA is definitely better. What are your arguments to argue so?

i have the same question to you. what are your arguments that trading with ea is not for everyone?
ea requires some complex skills? or why cant all traders use advisor in trading? 😄
You talk a lot but have nothing to show. Where is your account with profitable EA?... EA is not trading like human, that is why there is no profitable EA with low DD over 2 years. Some are stil alive but R:R is bad. They make 1-3% with DD over 50%. You need to monitor EA and adjust it same like with manual trading. There is nothing u can set and forget like you are describing... I tested a lot of EA's so I know and I use them too but they all need to be adjusted. US elections, Covid19, crisis etc... You need to know when to turn EA off and when on, when to reduce or increase risk, when to use EA in trend or in ranging market etc. Manual trade if you use SL and TP can be much safer and easier since you know the logic of trade entry. Look at swing trading it takes 5min a day and u are set. So it all depends on your style...

Now let's get back on track. We warned people this is probably a , those who listened are safe the ones that did not, lost. Now there is another danger like this and it's called RoFx. So be cafeful to not fall in the same trap!


disagree with you dude. you say manual trading is safer, since you can set sl and tp if you sleep f.ex. but all this's far from being so safe. sl is triggered at the current market price and if such things as elections, cataclysms, covid, etc. occur, then the price can go up/down to 100 points per second. and your sl will close respectively not where you expected.
so if we're talking about safety, then i'll trust ea more.
MP_89
Nov 23 2020 at 15:55
47 príspevkov
Samuelkoi posted:
MP_89 posted:
Samuelkoi posted:

I just wanted to say that different tasks require different solutions. EA trading is not for everyone.
But you claim that trading with EA is definitely better. What are your arguments to argue so?

i have the same question to you. what are your arguments that trading with ea is not for everyone?
ea requires some complex skills? or why cant all traders use advisor in trading? 😄

It often happens that ea misfires and leads to losses if trader doesn't intervene in time. If you use ea for a long time, then you will lose manual trading skills and market sense. Trading with eas is definitely not suitable for those who prefer to have complete control over the situation. Trading with ea is absolutely not suitable for beginners who don't yet have sufficient knowledge to make a decision in time.
So what are your arguments?

i think trade with ea helps the beginners better understand the market. and it’s quite good trading experience.

you asks me about arguments.
i'll tell you most important argument for ea. huge time savings.
1. i dont fully researching the current market situation, i dont make forecasts, etc. the advisor does all this for me.
2. i dont need to stay awake for days and monitor the minimum oscilation of each pips.
3. i get a constant profit.
want more arguments? trade with ea at least once. then you'll understand.
ForxForLife
Nov 23 2020 at 22:36
58 príspevkov
Prest posted:
MP_89 posted:


what is utopia? making profit is utopia? a properly configured advisor is utopia? trading with an ea is utopia? then the whole forex is utopia 😁😁
accept this difficult life, Richi boy that you live in a world of modern technology. where you no longer need to sit for days at the monitor and wait for the market rollback, because you 'chose the wrong side'. thanks to ea trading has become much easier.
if you're so high on masochism and dont sleep at night because of the open trade ... well suffer further.
and I'll make a profit in a less energy-intensive way.

Perhaps you will make a profit faster, but you will also quickly lose everything that you have when you decide that the advisor can make decisions for you...

You can quickly lose everything in manual trading too. In fact, I'd say it's even more likely because emotions can come into play.
oportunis
Nov 24 2020 at 09:09
102 príspevkov
MP_89 posted:

disagree with you dude. you say manual trading is safer, since you can set sl and tp if you sleep f.ex. but all this's far from being so safe. sl is triggered at the current market price and if such things as elections, cataclysms, covid, etc. occur, then the price can go up/down to 100 points per second. and your sl will close respectively not where you expected.
so if we're talking about safety, then i'll trust ea more.

Really so how does Ea know when to stop trading? Humans can stop trading before such events, EA doesn't, it has algorithm with parameters and once they are there it executes trade no matter of sentiment and human behavior, so you saying SL is not executed is more true for EA than for human that knows how to trade and is waiting for calm market...

Again, you talk the talk but you have nothing to show for... Where is your account with EA that we can track? You can check how I trade and I use both EA and my manual trading. I'm in forex for a whale so I know trading with just EA doesn't work otherwise there would be EA that lasts longer than a few months. You need to tweak EA the same as you need your manual trading and adapt to the market, so saying EA is set and forget is not true...

Anyway stop posting in this thread, I warned people this was a scam now you see the proof and start searching for answers on Accent broker and find who is Anthony. Spread the word about what they did to you and others here, so they don't fall for the same trap. There is a new scam going on it's called RoFX, find it here in myfxbook and warn others! Help them to not make the same mistake. Investing in an unregulated broker is a red flag! They can do anything they want...
bearwa
Nov 24 2020 at 11:21
4 príspevkov
This the 3rd time this has happened with this broker. I can't remember the other 2x account names but very similar story about 2 or 3 years of wins, gets everyone to pile in more and more money. Account gets up to enough size and then kaboomm.

Last time was really weird, traded Nok/USD or some strange pair that was extremely volatile, loaded up 2x 1000 lot trades and lost ~$4Mil in 2hrs. Can't remmeber the screenname, sure it listed in the past forum somewhere.

Enough is enough someone needs to report these brokers to the authorities
Mathias88
Nov 24 2020 at 11:50
24 príspevkov
VancouverRain posted:
My questions were not answered! They were just telling me to read again the document I signed when I registered.
We are dealing with a 10 million dollars 'mistake' or fraud' here. Of course, non of the brokers will not show their books at anyone's request...and we are not talking about a few hundred dollars win or loss.

who are 'we' in your post? i have got the only thing is you are or were the follower of this account. you still didnt answer what exactly you were explained. well, so be it, apparently you have your own aims. I see you do not want to figure it out, you already KNOW and DECIDED everything for yourself.
what abstract numbers are you talking about? how much exactly did you lose? or maybe you have got a profit?
i already wrote something similar somewhere on the forum, but i can repeat it here:
investors must understand the risks of forex and diversify risks by investing in different accounts or areas. and if they got money to burn, then there is no need to talk about their money. this is my 2 cents
vontogr (togr)
Nov 24 2020 at 13:15
4862 príspevkov
bearwa posted:
This the 3rd time this has happened with this broker. I can't remember the other 2x account names but very similar story about 2 or 3 years of wins, gets everyone to pile in more and more money. Account gets up to enough size and then kaboomm.

Last time was really weird, traded Nok/USD or some strange pair that was extremely volatile, loaded up 2x 1000 lot trades and lost ~$4Mil in 2hrs. Can't remmeber the screenname, sure it listed in the past forum somewhere.

Enough is enough someone needs to report these brokers to the authorities

I have warned everybody months ago
vontogr (togr) Jun 23 at 16:06
It is very simple guys,
it can be a scam unless you show such results on some reputable brokers.

I have seen many fake systems with unreal results on AccentForex. So beware.
Don't get fooled and waste your hard earn money
or do and then don't complain :)
Thomas (VancouverRain)
Nov 24 2020 at 13:16
11 príspevkov
I am doing fine, not the end of the day for me. I was aware of this broker had the same situation happened twice. Just blow up a few million dollars account in one shot. They are good at it. I thought Tony would be a different case since he has been trading for 5 years and with very good risk management. I guess it is all the same game this broker play. Made up some fund manager,
trade for a while with great records and one day just made up some fake trade and blow up the whole account, keep all investor's money.
Samuelkoi
Nov 24 2020 at 13:22
24 príspevkov
MP_89 posted:

i think trade with ea helps the beginners better understand the market. and it’s quite good trading experience.

you asks me about arguments.
i'll tell you most important argument for ea. huge time savings.
1. i dont fully researching the current market situation, i dont make forecasts, etc. the advisor does all this for me.
2. i dont need to stay awake for days and monitor the minimum oscilation of each pips.
3. i get a constant profit.
want more arguments? trade with ea at least once. then you'll understand.

Oh, and how dos using EA help newcomer understand the market without trading?
It's not at all necessary to constantly be near the terminal to trade. You can take long-term trading as a basis, instead of nervous scalping.
In the first point, you say that you don't follow the market analysis. And wha will happen if a trend ea gets into a flat correction and you will not be near the terminal to turn it off?
Mathias88
Nov 24 2020 at 14:27
24 príspevkov
VancouverRain posted:
Of course, non of the brokers will not show their books at anyone's request...and we are not talking about a few hundred dollars win or loss. No one can see where the orders been sent to, or the money has gone to. Just a short story about a fund manager who was sick and took pills....forgot to set stoploss.

you answered your own question imho
no broker will not show their books at anyone's request ..
so, what difference does it make about what amounts are in question, if none of the brokers showes this information?
is it broker who telling you about fund manager who was sick and took pills? 😲
Mathias88
Nov 24 2020 at 14:46
24 príspevkov
oportunis posted:
MP_89 posted:

disagree with you dude. you say manual trading is safer, since you can set sl and tp if you sleep f.ex. but all this's far from being so safe. sl is triggered at the current market price and if such things as elections, cataclysms, covid, etc. occur, then the price can go up/down to 100 points per second. and your sl will close respectively not where you expected.
so if we're talking about safety, then i'll trust ea more.

Anyway stop posting in this thread, I warned people this was a scam now you see the proof and start searching for answers on Accent broker and find who is Anthony. Spread the word about what they did to you and others here, so they don't fall for the same trap. There is a new scam going on it's called RoFX, find it here in myfxbook and warn others! Help them to not make the same mistake. Investing in an unregulated broker is a red flag! They can do anything they want...

you are wrong @oportunis
everyone shares their opinion on forum. you share yours, I share mine, other people share theirs accordingly. you have no right to tell who to post or stop posting and where.
and about your post, i would repeat what i said earlier, because these are home truths
1. no one should accuse another person without any evidence. all these assumptions are irrelevant. at least 95% of traders lose their accounts partially or completely according to statistics. so in 95% of cases you will be right.
2. why are you wasting your energy warning naive investors? as long as the market, trust management exists, there will be investors and there will be losses.
investors must understand the risks of forex and diversify risk, if they got money to burn, then there is no need to warn such people.

this is my firm opinion. people going to brokers always know where they are going. they know when these brokers are not regulated or at least by fca. they are looking for big leverage or better terms. So why, when after all they do not like smth, the word scam suddenly pops out?
i do not feel sorry for such people. at all. imho
ForxForLife
Nov 24 2020 at 17:08
58 príspevkov
oportunis
Nov 24 2020 at 19:04
102 príspevkov
Mathias88 posted:
you are wrong @oportunis
everyone shares their opinion on forum. you share yours, I share mine, other people share theirs accordingly. you have no right to tell who to post or stop posting and where.
and about your post, i would repeat what i said earlier, because these are home truths
1. no one should accuse another person without any evidence. all these assumptions are irrelevant. at least 95% of traders lose their accounts partially or completely according to statistics. so in 95% of cases you will be right.
2. why are you wasting your energy warning naive investors? as long as the market, trust management exists, there will be investors and there will be losses.
investors must understand the risks of forex and diversify risk, if they got money to burn, then there is no need to warn such people.

this is my firm opinion. people going to brokers always know where they are going. they know when these brokers are not regulated or at least by fca. they are looking for big leverage or better terms. So why, when after all they do not like smth, the word scam suddenly pops out?
i do not feel sorry for such people. at all. imho

I'm not wrong, because I have proof of how brokers can fake trades... Anyone with mql license can do it. If you want to see it send me a private message because they block it here.

If a broker is not regulated they can produce any trades they want without them being sent to the market and they can do a Ponzi scheme, pay those 5-10% of profitable traders with 90% of deposit from losing trades. They promote a safe PAM account where DD is under control and they produce a good profit, so they lore investors in and accumulate enough. Once they are happy with money accumulated then suddenly in just one day it all blows. This is not the first rodeo they did. Also yes traders can lose money, but with regulated brokers, you have an audit that can verify this, while with unregulated brokers they can do whatever they like. Anthony could as easily have opened a MAM account at ICMarkets or any other reputable broker, but he didn't. Why would he limit himself? It's easy to just use a master account and copy trades to other brokers, why limit his earnings unless he is a partner with the broker. Nobody would say anything if he would lose a few trades but to blow it all in a few hours is ridiculous for someone that manages millions. Do you think that a trader that earns 100k a month can't afford a risk management team or at least setup equity protecting EA? Come on...
MP_89
Nov 25 2020 at 13:03
47 príspevkov
oportunis posted:
MP_89 posted:

disagree with you dude. you say manual trading is safer, since you can set sl and tp if you sleep f.ex. but all this's far from being so safe. sl is triggered at the current market price and if such things as elections, cataclysms, covid, etc. occur, then the price can go up/down to 100 points per second. and your sl will close respectively not where you expected.
so if we're talking about safety, then i'll trust ea more.

Really so how does Ea know when to stop trading? Humans can stop trading before such events, EA doesn't, it has algorithm with parameters and once they are there it executes trade no matter of sentiment and human behavior, so you saying SL is not executed is more true for EA than for human that knows how to trade and is waiting for calm market...

Again, you talk the talk but you have nothing to show for... Where is your account with EA that we can track? You can check how I trade and I use both EA and my manual trading. I'm in forex for a whale so I know trading with just EA doesn't work otherwise there would be EA that lasts longer than a few months. You need to tweak EA the same as you need your manual trading and adapt to the market, so saying EA is set and forget is not true...

Anyway stop posting in this thread, I warned people this was a scam now you see the proof and start searching for answers on Accent broker and find who is Anthony. Spread the word about what they did to you and others here, so they don't fall for the same trap. There is a new scam going on it's called RoFX, find it here in myfxbook and warn others! Help them to not make the same mistake. Investing in an unregulated broker is a red flag! They can do anything they want...


you want track my account but dear its not possible yet. i withdrawn the profit i earned and closed account. while i took a break from trading until the end of the year.
that's right dear, ea has an algorithm for working. you're right. it has no emotions and can't make mistakes cause nervous!!!!
if you trade with ea, then you understand alas it's not perfect and needs to be corrected. but still i prefer trade with advisor. and you can't convince me. 😉😉
Mathias88
Nov 25 2020 at 14:03
24 príspevkov
oportunis posted:

I'm not wrong, because I have proof of how brokers can fake trades... Anyone with mql license can do it. If you want to see it send me a private message because they block it here.
Why would he limit himself? It's easy to just use a master account and copy trades to other brokers, why limit his earnings unless he is a partner with the broker. Nobody would say anything if he would lose a few trades but to blow it all in a few hours is ridiculous for someone that manages millions. Do you think that a trader that earns 100k a month can't afford a risk management team or at least setup equity protecting EA? Come on...

I said you are wrong in that you start telling someone what to post or not to post, and not about your thoughts...
if you want, you can send me proofs in pm, i am an curious person and always open for discussion and exchange of opinions.
but if i mentioned i have proof in discussion of a topic, then I would show this proof too for everyone to see.

I am familiar with management.
i want to tell you that it is the successful forex traders who lose accounts most often abruptly in almost one market movement.
this is not greed as many people think, this is self-confidence or arrogance.
a trait ordinary traders who are trading up to 50k usually do not have.
after being successful for so long, really cool traders think they understand the market and understand risk management.
but no! the market always shows the opposite.
the problem is that we may seem wise and be able to discuss it. but the whole point is, until you or me manage millions, we will never understand this as deeply as we should.
Peter Kimber (profitBottle)
Nov 25 2020 at 14:33
32 príspevkov
@oportunis

Hey,
I read your post and realized that you write having no idea of the real situation. Everything you say could exist if the money were locked and being accumulated. But they weren't locked, and ivestors are able to withdraw funds. (you refute it in your post). Iam Tony's ib and I can tell you that the trading period lasts 10 days, meaning that every 10 days funds can be withdrawn and every investor can submit a whole amount request at any time.
And no need to talk about brokers here, it looks like an advertisement. I saw a lot of negative reviews about icmarkets as well.
I suppose this is not about the broker, more like unfortunately Tony got into statistics 98%.
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