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Steinitz Fractal Breakout (Od steinitz )

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Jay (jaynier91)
Feb 01 2012 at 08:20
8 príspevkov
maestro007
Feb 01 2012 at 11:24
60 príspevkov
Nice results.

Are you following exactly the entry and stops from the indicator or is there some manual intervention?

steinitz
Feb 02 2012 at 01:51
22 príspevkov
Sorry we are not a signal service. That is why OPEN trades are hidden

Micheldutogo
Feb 03 2012 at 12:27
15 príspevkov
Not impressed since 1.00 lot/trade with multiple simultaneous trades for $10000 is called mismoneymanagement.

steinitz
Feb 03 2012 at 13:15
22 príspevkov

   Micheldutogo posted:
   Not impressed since 1.00 lot/trade with multiple simultaneous trades for $10000 is called mismoneymanagement.


Not true. There is more then meets the eye then a blanket statement like yours. If I have a 90% win rate with a average pip win that is high enough you can trade 50% of your account. It all depends on win rate + margin available + average pip won + average standard deviation. If these numbers are inline you can trade 50% indefinately....

rhoda815
Feb 04 2012 at 11:34
1 príspevkov
Glad to know its still the same fractal breakout indicator. I'm looking forward to learning the new way to trade it. Like i said, i only make a third of my capital every month using the combination stenitz fractal breakout indicator and the fractal divergence. I cherry pick the signal it produce, as much as possible, the signal must be very close to the 50MA. I guess i shouldn't be complaining about the result but i think it's always nice to strive for the better.

steinitz
Feb 04 2012 at 12:27
22 príspevkov
I'm glad to hear that you have perfected the fractal custom indicator. Good job on paying attention to the rules. Nothing wrong with what you're doing of course but I have drastically improved the method and will tutor serious people on a one-on-one basis to give you the new revisions. My session will last up to 2 hours and it's $500. No doubt with your skill you make that back real soon.

If you're interested let me know by e-mail: [email protected]

my PayPal ID = [email protected]

Jay (jaynier91)
Feb 06 2012 at 09:46
8 príspevkov
Trading the steinitz fractal without a single loss. Without using the standard loss exit rules. This is new! Impressive!
Which webminar will this be covered on sir?

maestro007
Feb 07 2012 at 09:26
60 príspevkov
What is happening with the draw down?

It seems it is at 40%, I think of original deposit?

Considering you closed 1 trade at -8 pips, why is this one being allowed to run like this?

steinitz
Feb 07 2012 at 11:19
22 príspevkov
My drawdown from the original deposit is totally irrelevant. Let's say I started with $10,000 and now I'm at $200,000 am currently down $10,000 in open trades. Does that mean that I'm wiped out? Certainly not. My current drawdown is 17%

maestro007
Feb 07 2012 at 12:41
60 príspevkov
Hi Steinitz,


I think you misunderstood what I was asking.

I was not indicating that you were about to be wiped out.

My concern was why this trade was being allowed to sit in draw down for so long. Maybe as the others went to TP so quickly the stops on trades were not obvious.

What risk is being taken per trade I guess is what I was trying to get at.

I.e. currently you are 17% down on this one trade (maybe it is now more then 1 trade), yet when it was opened your balance was not as it is now, so based on when it was opened the draw down I think would be more like 23%.

My question is what kind of stops are being used per trade i.e. 30% equity.

Sorry for the confusion on my last post, hopefully this is clearer now.

steinitz
Feb 07 2012 at 15:42
22 príspevkov
Those questions are discussed in my private tutoring

maestro007
Feb 07 2012 at 19:08
60 príspevkov
It would be helpful if you gave some indication as to what kind of stops are being used (without giving away the whole strategy).. In all honesty the initial performance was great, however it seems the strategy is hold and hope..

Draw down is now 30% of current balance..

As much as the wins look good, I would be hesitant to spend $500, without further knowledge on what I am learning..

Considering the current draw down we are seeing.

Micheldutogo
Feb 08 2012 at 07:18
15 príspevkov
Why anyone would spend $500 in order to find out your stop loss? I agree that it is a hold and hope strategy. The results look good only for newbies. If you are a veteran trader, you know it is a trick to get people to pay you for a high risk system that will blow your account at some point.

Jay (jaynier91)
Feb 08 2012 at 07:30
8 príspevkov
Probably because this is a demo account. Attention is naturally bit low on demo. It's a virtual money for god sake. I know the system well. Try trading it on a real account with use of the normal close on loss rules, steinitz. Show them what the system are made of.

Micheldutogo
Feb 08 2012 at 08:02
15 príspevkov
Red flag. Trading demo when you can double your account within a week? Yes show us what your system is made of by trading it live.

Micheldutogo
Feb 08 2012 at 08:02
15 príspevkov
Here we go, big losses. I told you guys.

Jay (jaynier91)
Feb 08 2012 at 08:13
8 príspevkov
He didn't use the standard rules for exits trading this demo acc.
By right, if he was to follow the rules, he would have even tripled the account in 1 week. Safely without big floats.
Don't underestimate the steinitz.

Micheldutogo
Feb 08 2012 at 09:06
15 príspevkov
Micheldutogo
Feb 08 2012 at 09:08
15 príspevkov
Steinitz, do yu understand that people use their hard earned money to get your systems? The worst thing is that you are killing their hopes by selling craps. You might be making money by selling not trading but you are scamming straight to hell (what goes around, comes around!). Your greed is getting worse. You know what, life is not so easy, the downfall is around the corner for greedy people.

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