The longer time an EA, cBot is operating the higher the chances are of a higher draw down.
The first year running, under 10% draw down is very good, The second year under 15% is acceptable, the third year 20%.
Draw downs higher then 20% a year reflects taking too much of a risk of the trading account.
25% draw down as Franck Cirna suggested should be the maximum allowed depending on the strategy at place.
More about this and other risk & money management principles can be read at RMMRobot.com
The first year running, under 10% draw down is very good, The second year under 15% is acceptable, the third year 20%.
Draw downs higher then 20% a year reflects taking too much of a risk of the trading account.
25% draw down as Franck Cirna suggested should be the maximum allowed depending on the strategy at place.
More about this and other risk & money management principles can be read at RMMRobot.com
" Lock in the profit and minimize the draw down "
Franck Cirna
(Sk0ll)
Uczestnik z May 06, 2011
10 postów
Feb 04 2016 at 00:49
25% is my maximum DD, actually this 15% was due an error of lot size calculation.
During backtests my DD did not exceed 13%.
I keeo strict money management rules.. Im more concerned about my DD than profit.
During backtests my DD did not exceed 13%.
I keeo strict money management rules.. Im more concerned about my DD than profit.
Hi Franck,
there might be spikes of the draw down, as in your case. It's very important however that we are aware of this and make the necessary changes needed to bring down the risk. You have the right attitude and I'm glad to hear you are more concerned about the draw down in the first place, then profit. Profit is the outcome when the DD is in control.
there might be spikes of the draw down, as in your case. It's very important however that we are aware of this and make the necessary changes needed to bring down the risk. You have the right attitude and I'm glad to hear you are more concerned about the draw down in the first place, then profit. Profit is the outcome when the DD is in control.
" Lock in the profit and minimize the draw down "
FXtrader2010
Uczestnik z May 20, 2011
724 postów
Feb 04 2016 at 07:47
Sk0ll posted:nice job!
Hello!!
Here is my system:
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/autotrade/steady-profit/1094363/tO7lutbqXhyw5jtM3eJj
Hi,
I had some problems with the Swiss franc in the past (:) and I slowed down for some time but lately I started again with good and steady profits.
This is my primary account (I don't use systems):
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/shen139/zetah/1474723
I had some problems with the Swiss franc in the past (:) and I slowed down for some time but lately I started again with good and steady profits.
This is my primary account (I don't use systems):
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/shen139/zetah/1474723
Time is what we want most, but what we use worst!
FXtrader2010
Uczestnik z May 20, 2011
724 postów
Feb 07 2016 at 08:05
shen139 posted:nice job man
Hi,
I had some problems with the Swiss franc in the past (:) and I slowed down for some time but lately I started again with good and steady profits.
This is my primary account (I don't use systems):
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/shen139/zetah/1474723
Batak Medan
(batak)
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132 postów
Feb 08 2016 at 09:21
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smarttrader
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Feb 08 2016 at 11:59
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batak posted:
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BlueSapphireFX
(BlueSapphireFX)
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Feb 12 2016 at 11:36
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Please have a look:
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jsantos3
Uczestnik z Nov 12, 2009
272 postów
Feb 24 2016 at 23:34
FxMasterGuru posted:
Although the above question was not addressed to me, let me answer it as a starter of this thread.
Yes, it is a real fact. There are some scam brokers which - usually collaborating with scammer signal or EA sellers as part of a Ponzi scheme - falsify results to attract clients for the brokerage and for the scammers... Sometimes the scam broker and the scam signal/EA seller is the same person...
Those 'hand-crafted' results will be published as REAL and VERIFIED results by MyFxBook, as MyFxBook would not know that the broker is a scam broker...
So I consider real and verified results (by MyFxBook) as 'really REAL', only if those results had been verified through a reputed, regulated and mainstream broker, e.g. Pepperstone, IC Markets, etc...
SYNERGYFX and so called Doug Price are churning several news EA's every year. Very scammy.
FxMasterGuru
(FxMasterGuru)
Uczestnik z May 04, 2012
1608 postów
Nov 02 2016 at 12:33
This is a revival attempt of a thread I started back in 2013...
It is interesting to check out all those strategies which had claimed to fulfill the requirements over the past 3.5 years...
It is interesting to check out all those strategies which had claimed to fulfill the requirements over the past 3.5 years...
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Risk & Money Management is of interest for all traders and protecting the account should be a primary goal that has to be accomplished, before even thinking of making any money. RMMRobot.com have some interesting ideas how to approach this subject for the trader.
" Lock in the profit and minimize the draw down "
FxMasterGuru
(FxMasterGuru)
Uczestnik z May 04, 2012
1608 postów
Nov 02 2016 at 23:42
kricka posted:
Risk & Money Management is of interest for all traders and protecting the account should be a primary goal that has to be accomplished, before even thinking of making any money. RMMRobot.com have some interesting ideas how to approach this subject for the trader.
SERIOUSLY...? REALLY...?
Which is the ''interesting approach'' part of it...? Maybe the ''protecting the account as a primary goal'' - as mentioned?
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any account with 2 years ? ))) it is not possible )
We can invest 50-100k. Please PM me with real invest password last 6 Month Statement
FxMasterGuru
(FxMasterGuru)
Uczestnik z May 04, 2012
1608 postów
Nov 10 2016 at 09:53
IvestINC posted:
any account with 2 years ? ))) it is not possible )
Thanks for letting us know that ''it is NOT possible''...! 😕
Very encouraging for all aspiring traders and investors...
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Why the max 25% DD criterium? I have had way higher drawdown, up to 60% and I am making nice profits.
I am a gridtrader that trades positive swap only so only sell eurusd, sell usdrub, buy nzdusd, buy gbpchf and some 15 more.
Let's say I have 100k to trade with. I open 12 accounts with 5k each and on each account I start gridtrading in a way that I can cope with -600 to -1000 pips. There is 40k left so when an account gets to 70% drawdown I add 5k to that account. By selling eurusd and buying nzdusd I hedge some of the pairs. Worst case scenario I have to add 10k to one account. Other accounts that go my way will profit so after quite some time I could also withdraw 5 times 1k.
This works like a charm for me

The first account with +62% is by far my biggest account holding 52% of my total equity. The one with -31% is closed manually because I decided to leave that broker and open the exact same positions with a better broker.
I have 1 more account that isn't listed here holding 22% of my total equity that also saw 50% DD that has +46% profit.
I think with my drawdown I am doing quite okay
I am a gridtrader that trades positive swap only so only sell eurusd, sell usdrub, buy nzdusd, buy gbpchf and some 15 more.
Let's say I have 100k to trade with. I open 12 accounts with 5k each and on each account I start gridtrading in a way that I can cope with -600 to -1000 pips. There is 40k left so when an account gets to 70% drawdown I add 5k to that account. By selling eurusd and buying nzdusd I hedge some of the pairs. Worst case scenario I have to add 10k to one account. Other accounts that go my way will profit so after quite some time I could also withdraw 5 times 1k.
This works like a charm for me

The first account with +62% is by far my biggest account holding 52% of my total equity. The one with -31% is closed manually because I decided to leave that broker and open the exact same positions with a better broker.
I have 1 more account that isn't listed here holding 22% of my total equity that also saw 50% DD that has +46% profit.
I think with my drawdown I am doing quite okay
Due to gbpchf and usdjpy going up a lot lately on wich I made great profit my drawdown in the accounts listed here is 11.5% and on the account that is not listed here the current drawdown is 27%
kieran
(snapdragon1970)
Uczestnik z Sep 12, 2015
1948 postów
Dec 11 2016 at 14:01
Why have such a large DD , why not set it at 5-10% and re buy at a better price , if you believe a price is going to pull back what's wrong with buying it cheaper or selling it more expensive , higher gains.
"They mistook leverage with genius".