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Is there any real traders here ?

May 16, 2011 at 08:44
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Uczestnik z May 11, 2011   15 postów
May 16, 2011 at 08:44
Hi,



Is there any 'real' traders here ?

Uczestnik z Nov 18, 2009   735 postów
May 16, 2011 at 09:47
and pls define 'trader' as well 😁😁😁
Surround yourself with people whose eyes light up when they see you and who have no agenda for your reform.
Uczestnik z Nov 18, 2009   735 postów
May 16, 2011 at 10:19
Hard to catch the 'real traders' since they are usually silent because they don't have to be loud and 'act as if'.
You know the phrase 'act as if'? Taken from the movie Boiler Room. Funny one about the world of trading, bucket shops, etc.

<i>There's an important phrase that we use here and I think it's time you all learned it. 'Act as if'. Do you understand what that means? Act as if you are the f...ing president of this firm. Act as if you have a nine inch cock. Act as if.</i>
Surround yourself with people whose eyes light up when they see you and who have no agenda for your reform.
IslandFX
forex_trader_8110
Uczestnik z Mar 03, 2010   41 postów
May 16, 2011 at 10:20

eaexpert888 posted:
    Hi,

Is there any 'real' traders here ?


How about you make all your stats public and verified before asking.

IslandFX
forex_trader_8110
Uczestnik z Mar 03, 2010   41 postów
May 16, 2011 at 10:26
There is a lot of Scepticism, smoke and mirrors here with systems and traders. I wish everyone would come clean but alas.
Uczestnik z May 11, 2011   15 postów
May 16, 2011 at 14:33
Why I post this question because ...
1. I am a new comer in the website. I didn't find any information about this website as 'Contact Us' and 'Company Info', who created this website and why made this forum ?

2. I found many strategies are fake, the figures are impossible in trading such as lot size shown 99999999.

3. Many fake traders claimed their strategies are the greatest. Can double money in few days.

4. I want to meet real traders and share trading experience with them.

5. I want to have business opportunities and let investors apprecipate my skill and ability.

 
Uczestnik z May 16, 2011   35 postów
May 16, 2011 at 16:59

eaexpert888 posted:
    Why I post this question because ...
1. I am a new comer in the website. I didn't find any information about this website as 'Contact Us' and 'Company Info', who created this website and why made this forum ?

2. I found many strategies are fake, the figures are impossible in trading such as lot size shown 99999999.

3. Many fake traders claimed their strategies are the greatest. Can double money in few days.

4. I want to meet real traders and share trading experience with them.

5. I want to have business opportunities and let investors apprecipate my skill and ability.

90% to 95% of all Forex Traders lose trading forex. That includes most FX managers. That happens for good reason. Trading requires many elements. It requires fundamental knowledge. It requires technical knowledge. It requires understanding how each asset class affects the currency that you are trading. The rise or fall in the price of Oil, Gold, US Bonds and the Dow will change the value of the currency that you trade.

After all that is said and done you need a proper Risk Management strategy and you cannot trade your weakness. Greed, Fear and Ego will defeat most if not all Forex trader's. You cannot trade properly without a Trade Plan. You need to know where to enter a trade and as important when to take a profit or a loss. Trading to just have a position open is gambling.

I suggest learning how to trade is much better than having someone trade for you.

These are my thoughts. I have been trading Forex over 5 years now.
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Uczestnik z May 11, 2011   15 postów
May 16, 2011 at 23:55
Forexwinner,

I totally agree your points.

So I developed EA to replace manual trading. It helps me to analyse different indicators and time frame. Most important thing is to help me to manage the risk management policy.

I just acted as third party to look at the macro/micro economy and fine tune the corresponding variable. I felt there are many professional traders working for me.

Upcoming is to enhance different asset class analysis so as to improve the success rate.

You are a real experience expert and you are appreciated.

   
Uczestnik z May 16, 2011   35 postów
May 17, 2011 at 01:28

eaexpert888 posted:
    Forexwinner,

I totally agree your points.

So I developed EA to replace manual trading. It helps me to analyse different indicators and time frame. Most important thing is to help me to manage the risk management policy.

I just acted as third party to look at the macro/micro economy and fine tune the corresponding variable. I felt there are many professional traders working for me.

Upcoming is to enhance different asset class analysis so as to improve the success rate.

You are a real experience expert and you are appreciated.

   

How may I help you...
Uczestnik z May 16, 2011   35 postów
May 17, 2011 at 01:38
zzzero
forex_trader_27988
Uczestnik z Jan 26, 2011   1367 postów
May 17, 2011 at 03:46 (edytowane May 17, 2011 at 03:48)
I HEREBY WARN EVERY PERSON IN THIS THREAD/FORUM THAT FOREXWEINER IS A PERSON THAT DOES NOT TRADE, BUT INSTEAD HE HUNTS FOR OPM VICTIMS AND HE POSTS THESE NONSTOP CUT/PASTE NEWS REPORTS IN THE HOPES THATA YOU WILL BE CONVINCED THAT HE KNOWS WHATA HE IS DOING.

WALK VERY SOFTLY WHEN INTERFACING WITH THIS CRIMINAL.

I AM ZERO.

I DO MAKE A LOT OF JOKES THAT MAY OR MAY NOT ACTUALLY BE AMUSING OR FUNNY.

BUT I AM NOT EVEN KIDDING WHEN I POST THIS WARNING.

THIS MAN IS NOT A TRADER.

HE IS A CRIMINAL.

EVERYBODY, MAY I FORMALLY INTRODUCE YOU TO BRUCE WARREN MARGOLESE.

CONSIDER YOURSELVES FORMALLY INTRODUCED.

ZERO/.

https://brucecon.blogspot.com
Uczestnik z May 11, 2011   15 postów
May 17, 2011 at 08:13
Forexwinner,

You no need to help me as I do my job very well. Just want to listen and share the traders' opinion.


zzzero,

If he is a criminal or fake trader, none of my business. There is no lose to me. Just share opinion is ok.

Don't be so serious.


Uczestnik z May 16, 2011   35 postów
May 17, 2011 at 12:26

zzzero posted:
    I HEREBY WARN EVERY PERSON IN THIS THREAD/FORUM THAT FOREXWEINER IS A PERSON THAT DOES NOT TRADE, BUT INSTEAD HE HUNTS FOR OPM VICTIMS AND HE POSTS THESE NONSTOP CUT/PASTE NEWS REPORTS IN THE HOPES THATA YOU WILL BE CONVINCED THAT HE KNOWS WHATA HE IS DOING.

WALK VERY SOFTLY WHEN INTERFACING WITH THIS CRIMINAL.

I AM ZERO.

I DO MAKE A LOT OF JOKES THAT MAY OR MAY NOT ACTUALLY BE AMUSING OR FUNNY.

BUT I AM NOT EVEN KIDDING WHEN I POST THIS WARNING.

THIS MAN IS NOT A TRADER.

HE IS A CRIMINAL.

EVERYBODY, MAY I FORMALLY INTRODUCE YOU TO BRUCE WARREN MARGOLESE.

CONSIDER YOURSELVES FORMALLY INTRODUCED.

ZERO/.

https://brucecon.blogspot.com


Dear Sir

Where do you get your information. Who are you to accuse me when you have no credibility here. I will not contact my barristers in your case since it would serve no purpose. My credentials are available and the only important thing is my knowledge. Your comments are false as I have not and will never do business with someone unknown to me on the internet. Now please go back to your fantasy work and behave yourself.
Uczestnik z May 16, 2011   35 postów
May 17, 2011 at 12:28
Bruce Margolese Professional Con Artist

Friday, October 26, 2007
Everybody is getting rich thanks to me: Bruce Margolese
He showed me around his penthouse apartment. His apartment was on the top floor of this modern high rise. 'I am a commodities broker. You know what that is?' I shook my head no. 'I make millions for my investors. They love me.'

He showed me his Large Screen TV and satellite system. He then started showing me the x-rated channels which did not interest me in the least but it seemed to turn him on after all at 60 years old if you can get turned on by that then I say 'Good for you.'

He told me he is expanding his company and would love it if I would join. I needed the work so I of course agreed. If I was a smart man I would have read the information about Bruce Margolese at Rip-off Report. He has a few things about him also written here. Or even Oanda has some stuff about him and how he lies to keep his con going on. I wanted to take the word of Bruce Margolese and I had no reason to doubt who he was. But if you ask simple question Like'Bruce what were you doing before you were a commodities broker' you would realize it was one con job after another and you were next on the path.
Posted by The_Bruce_Margolese_Con at 9:01 PM 1 comments Wednesday, July 11, 2007
The Bruce Margolese Story
I met Bruce many, many years ago. At first I thought he was intelligent and very good looking. He spoke in a way that made you hang on his every word. He spoke with such confidence, every word out of his mouth was a fact and there was no way to doubt what he was saying.

Ed introduced me to Bruce at Deli Guys; a deli that Bruce seemed to have a tab with because at the end of our meal Bruce told Eddie and myself that he was covering our meal and told the waitress 'Just put the meals on my tab ask Solly about it. Tell him the BMW's tab, the name is Bruce W. Margolese. The W is for wealth' I was impressed.

During our meal Bruce kept talking about how much money he made and had. It was all so impressive, if you like that sort of thing.

'This is my 3rd business in 5 years, I sold my last business for $10 million.' He told me as he shoved a piece of his kaiser roll into his mouth. He continued talking with his mouth still chewing the bread, 'I got this $70,000 photocopier that makes great colour photographs. I didn't have to spend a dime on it. The company gave it to me to try.'

My father had always told me to believe half of what a man tells you. In Bruce's case I think it would be a lot less than that.
Uczestnik z May 27, 2011   63 postów
May 28, 2011 at 01:27
Tale-Bearing
There are two mitzvot in the Torah that specifically address improper speech: Thou shalt not go up and down as a tale-bearer among thy people (Lev. 19:16), and ye shall not wrong one another (Lev. 25:17, which according to tradition refers to wronging a person with speech).

Tale-bearing is, essentially, any gossip. The Hebrew word for tale-bearer is 'rakhil' (Reish-Kaf-Yod-Lamed), which is related to a word meaning trader or merchant. The idea is that a tale-bearer is like a merchant, but he deals in information instead of goods. In our modern 'Information Age,' the idea of information as a product has become more clear than ever before, yet it is present even here in the Torah.

It is a violation of this mitzvah to say anything about another person, even it is true, even if it is not negative, even if it is not secret, even if it hurts no one, even if the person himself would tell the same thing if asked! It is said that the telling of gossip leads to bloodshed, which is why the next words in the Torah are 'you shall not stand aside while your fellow's blood is shed.' The story of Do'eig the Edomite (I Samuel Chs. 21-22) is often used to illustrate the harm that can be done by tale-bearing. Do'eig saw Achimelekh the Kohein give David bread and a sword, a completely innocent act intended to aid a leading member of Saul's court. Do'eig reported this to Saul. Do'eig's story was completely true, not negative, not secret, and Achimelekh would have told Saul exactly the same thing if asked (in fact, he did so later). Yet Saul misinterpreted this tale as proof that Achimelekh was supporting David in a rebellion, and proceeded to slaughter all but one of the kohanim at Nob.

The person who listens to gossip is even worse than the person who tells it, because no harm could be done by gossip if no one listened to it. It has been said that lashon ha-ra (disparaging speech) kills three: the person who speaks it, the person who hears it, and the person about whom it is told. (Talmud Arachin 15b).

In Jewish law, all things are considered to be secret unless a person specifically says otherwise. For this reason, you will note that in the Torah, G-d constantly says to Moses, 'Speak to the Children of Israel, saying:' or 'Speak to the Children of Israel and tell them:' If G-d did not specifically say this to Moses, Moses would be forbidden to repeat his words! Nor is there any time-limit on secrets. The Talmud tells the story of a student who revealed a secret that he had heard 22 years earlier, and he was immediately banished from the house of study! (Talmud Sanhedrin 31a)

The gravest of these sins of tale-bearing is lashon ha-ra (literally, 'the evil tongue'), which involves discrediting a person or saying negative things about a person, even if those negative things are true. Indeed, true statements are even more damaging than false ones, because you can't defend yourself by disproving the negative statement if it's true! Some sources indicate that lashon ha-ra is equal in seriousness to murder, idol worship, and incest/adultery (the only three sins that you may not violate even to save a life).

It is forbidden to even imply or suggest negative things about a person. It is forbidden to say negative things about a person, even in jest. It is likewise considered a 'shade of lashon ha-ra' to say positive things about a person in the presence of his enemies, because this will encourage his enemies to say negative things to contradict you!

One who tells disparaging things that are false is referred to as a motzi sheim ra, that is, one who spreads a bad report. This is considered the lowest of the low.

It is generally not a sin to repeat things that have been told 'in the presence of three persons.' The idea is that if it is told in the presence of three persons, it is already public knowledge, and no harm can come of retelling it. However, even in this case, you should not repeat it if you know you will be spreading the gossip further.

When Tale-Bearing is Allowed
There are a few exceptional circumstances when tale-bearing is allowed, or even required. Most notably, tale-bearing is required in a Jewish court of law, because it is a mitzvah to give testimony and that mitzvah overrides the general prohibition against tale-bearing. Thus, a person is required to reveal information, even if it is something that was explicitly told in confidence, even if it will harm a person, in a Jewish court of law.

A person is also required to reveal information to protect a person from immediate, serious harm. For example, if a person hears that others are plotting to kill someone, he is required to reveal this information. That is another reason why the commandment not to go about as a tale-bearer is juxtaposed with 'you shall not stand aside while your fellow's blood is shed.'

In limited circumstances, one is also permitted to reveal information if someone is entering into a relationship that he would not enter if he knew certain information. For example, it may be permissible to tell a person that his prospective business partner is untrustworthy, or that a prospective spouse has a disease. This exception is subject to significant and complex limitations; however, if those limitations are satisfied, the person with the information is required to reveal it.

In all of these exceptions, a person is not permitted to reveal information if the same objective could be fulfilled without revealing information. For example, if you could talk a person out of marrying for reasons other than the disease, you may not reveal the disease.

Wronging a Person through Speech
Leviticus 25:17 says, 'You shall not wrong one another.' This has traditionally been interpreted as wronging a person with speech. It includes any statement that will embarrass, insult or deceive a person, or cause a person emotional pain or distress.

Here are some commonly-used examples of behavior that is forbidden by this mitzvah:

You may not call a person by a derogatory nickname, or by any other embarrassing name, even if he is used to it.
You may not ask an uneducated person for an opinion on a scholarly matter (that would draw attention to his lack of knowledge or education).
You may not ask a merchant how much he would sell something for if you have no intention of buying.
You may not refer someone to another person for assistance when you know the other person cannot help (in other words, it's a violation of Jewish law to give someone the run-around!).
You may not deceive a person, even if no harm is done by the deception; for example, you may not sell non-kosher meat to a non-Jew telling him that it is kosher, even though no harm is done to the non-Jew by this deception.
You may not sell a person damaged goods without identifying the damage, even if the price you give is fair for the goods in their damaged condition.
You may not offer a person a gift or invite a person to dinner if you know that the person will not accept.
You may not compliment a person if you do not mean it.
Uczestnik z Jul 21, 2011   4 postów
Aug 06, 2011 at 22:19
Hi , im also new here , but not so new in FX, and have not seen good charts, with publisched details. Unfortunately for some guys here I can read details , and realy would like to see results. I do not expect learning from guys. I can learn from chart. And Im not interested in EAs and in not verified accounts. If somebody of you has found , or know already somebodys profile please let me know . Thanks.
People work so much, thats why they do not have time to earn big money.
Uczestnik z Aug 01, 2010   104 postów
Aug 06, 2011 at 23:20

zzzero posted:
    I HEREBY WARN EVERY PERSON IN THIS THREAD/FORUM THAT FOREXWEINER IS A PERSON THAT DOES NOT TRADE, BUT INSTEAD HE HUNTS FOR OPM VICTIMS AND HE POSTS THESE NONSTOP CUT/PASTE NEWS REPORTS IN THE HOPES THATA YOU WILL BE CONVINCED THAT HE KNOWS WHATA HE IS DOING.

WALK VERY SOFTLY WHEN INTERFACING WITH THIS CRIMINAL.

I AM ZERO.

I DO MAKE A LOT OF JOKES THAT MAY OR MAY NOT ACTUALLY BE AMUSING OR FUNNY.

BUT I AM NOT EVEN KIDDING WHEN I POST THIS WARNING.

THIS MAN IS NOT A TRADER.

HE IS A CRIMINAL.

EVERYBODY, MAY I FORMALLY INTRODUCE YOU TO BRUCE WARREN MARGOLESE.

CONSIDER YOURSELVES FORMALLY INTRODUCED.

ZERO/.

https://brucecon.blogspot.com

Hi zzzero,
I don't have the power to give you a Vouch.
But I can give you the Star Sheriff.
Keep going.

Tradingboy
I Trade You Profit. Forex is suitable for smart and patient people...
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