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arpan366
May 02 2018 at 06:03
31 postów
BluePanther posted:
snapdragon1970 posted:
Adribaasmet posted:
Leverage__ posted:
Nice system but you hide history
I think, without the history, it’s really tough to judge the real performance.
Other factors tell us what its like, don't really need history.

History would certainly be IDEAL and PREFERRED, but (unfortunately) is NOT a mandatory criterion as per first post:

RSTrading posted:
Hi there.

There are threads where you can go advertise your trading accounts, but with stricter rules.

I would like to invite traders to show off their accounts here if they pass certain criteria.

The criteria :

1) The account must be real - no demo's. (please do not argue here that it is the same as a live acc. etc - the idea is not to engage in any arguments)
2) The account must be verified (please do not come and defend your unverified-but-want-to-participate account - there will simply be no interest)
3)DD must not be higher than 40% - (please. Once again. No justification for your above 40% dd, if it is higher - don't participate)
4)The account must be older than 3 months, maybe this is even still too young.
5)No martingales! (it might work for you, and I do not want to engage in an argument - just please keep to yourself and don't participate)

That's it. Only these five things. If your account passes that, feel free to let others know. There will be those that are disgruntled they cannot participate and will try to justify their way of trading, please ignore them - if it works for you, then great - maybe start a new thread and invite others trading that style to participate. - As I said, this place is not for arguing, it is for displaying accounts that potential investors might want to follow based on the criteria above. This thread is not intended to badmouth other trader's ways.

Continue... NEXT!

I need this:


Without history, it is impossible to tell if a system is a martingale/grid. So history is absolutely needed as per the rules of the thread (rule no 5). Thanks.
Niverto1983
May 02 2018 at 10:00
11 postów
Dear Friends,

The only reason I am hidding history is for privacy only i.e the strategy is very confidential.
Anyway the strategy is absolutely not martingale but the opposite i.e risk management based, low drawdown and annual return on 20-30% average.

For your information I am not selling the system.
Hope you can understand.

 
arpan366 posted:
BluePanther posted:
snapdragon1970 posted:
Adribaasmet posted:
Leverage__ posted:
Nice system but you hide history
I think, without the history, it’s really tough to judge the real performance.
Other factors tell us what its like, don't really need history.

History would certainly be IDEAL and PREFERRED, but (unfortunately) is NOT a mandatory criterion as per first post:

RSTrading posted:
Hi there.

There are threads where you can go advertise your trading accounts, but with stricter rules.

I would like to invite traders to show off their accounts here if they pass certain criteria.

The criteria :

1) The account must be real - no demo's. (please do not argue here that it is the same as a live acc. etc - the idea is not to engage in any arguments)
2) The account must be verified (please do not come and defend your unverified-but-want-to-participate account - there will simply be no interest)
3)DD must not be higher than 40% - (please. Once again. No justification for your above 40% dd, if it is higher - don't participate)
4)The account must be older than 3 months, maybe this is even still too young.
5)No martingales! (it might work for you, and I do not want to engage in an argument - just please keep to yourself and don't participate)

That's it. Only these five things. If your account passes that, feel free to let others know. There will be those that are disgruntled they cannot participate and will try to justify their way of trading, please ignore them - if it works for you, then great - maybe start a new thread and invite others trading that style to participate. - As I said, this place is not for arguing, it is for displaying accounts that potential investors might want to follow based on the criteria above. This thread is not intended to badmouth other trader's ways.

Continue... NEXT!

I need this:


Without history, it is impossible to tell if a system is a martingale/grid. So history is absolutely needed as per the rules of the thread (rule no 5). Thanks.
Matt (BluePanther)
May 02 2018 at 10:43
1357 postów
arpan366 posted:
Without history, it is impossible to tell if a system is a martingale/grid. So history is absolutely needed as per the rules of the thread (rule no 5). Thanks.

Hmm, good point. lol
kieran (snapdragon1970)
May 02 2018 at 11:21
1948 postów
Any system claiming to be even remotely like a hedge fund need to look at what criteria they actually use.
"They mistook leverage with genius".
Adribaasmet
May 02 2018 at 12:01
994 postów
PiotrPietrzak posted:
and another one

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/PiotrPietrzak/algo-1-part-2/2305469

I see, last 2 months are too impressive, I hope gradually it’ll be more and more. All the best.
sjkhaushu
May 02 2018 at 13:37
143 postów
snapdragon1970 posted:
Any system claiming to be even remotely like a hedge fund need to look at what criteria they actually use.

Exactly. This systems avg profitable trade is less than 4 pips and trade expectancy is 1.5 pips. Thats not scalable and even a 50k investment could already distort the perfromance for the worse due to liquidity limitations. The DD would get higher and profits would be lower which means Calmar ratio is going to suffer. Hedge funds are trading billions and this system is definitely not something they would ever use, it would not even be profitable.
Niverto1983
May 02 2018 at 14:55
11 postów
It is not correct.
It is scalable depending on the portfolio you have i.e on a 50K investment you will adjust the leverage to fulfill the exact same criteria of drawdown, profit etc...it will be the exact same performance on larger scale. As an example, my investment in 2017 was half my investment in 2018 and I will keep increasing my investment year after year.

I can tell you (true story), I have seen 1 million dollar account using this method.

I hope it's clear :)


sjkhaushu posted:
snapdragon1970 posted:
Any system claiming to be even remotely like a hedge fund need to look at what criteria they actually use.

Exactly. This systems avg profitable trade is less than 4 pips and trade expectancy is 1.5 pips. Thats not scalable and even a 50k investment could already distort the perfromance for the worse due to liquidity limitations. The DD would get higher and profits would be lower which means Calmar ratio is going to suffer. Hedge funds are trading billions and this system is definitely not something they would ever use, it would not even be profitable.
kieran (snapdragon1970)
May 02 2018 at 17:03
1948 postów
sjkhaushu posted:
snapdragon1970 posted:
Any system claiming to be even remotely like a hedge fund need to look at what criteria they actually use.

Exactly. This systems avg profitable trade is less than 4 pips and trade expectancy is 1.5 pips. Thats not scalable and even a 50k investment could already distort the perfromance for the worse due to liquidity limitations. The DD would get higher and profits would be lower which means Calmar ratio is going to suffer. Hedge funds are trading billions and this system is definitely not something they would ever use, it would not even be profitable.

Upside down Trading,turn that risk upside down and it might be a great system
"They mistook leverage with genius".
vontogr (togr)
May 03 2018 at 06:13
4862 postów
Niverto1983 posted:
Hi everyone,

Stable account since 55 weeks with 3.6% Drawdown. Please don't be blind with young high profit account (and thus big drawdown) but rather look for stable account and low/limited drawdown.
Last year (2017) I made +31% and monthly average performance of 3%/4%

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Niverto1983/niverto1983/2041045

I received a lot of private messages on how is it possible to copy my trades, you can do it on the following link:

https://www.signalstart.com/analysis/niverto-fund/32679

You can message me if you have any question
Happy trading

@Niverto1983
quite do not understand why you hide history here and have it public on signalstart :)
sjkhaushu
May 03 2018 at 06:14
143 postów
Niverto1983 posted:
It is not correct.
It is scalable depending on the portfolio you have i.e on a 50K investment you will adjust the leverage to fulfill the exact same criteria of drawdown, profit etc...it will be the exact same performance on larger scale. As an example, my investment in 2017 was half my investment in 2018 and I will keep increasing my investment year after year.

I can tell you (true story), I have seen 1 million dollar account using this method.

I hope it's clear :)


sjkhaushu posted:
snapdragon1970 posted:
Any system claiming to be even remotely like a hedge fund need to look at what criteria they actually use.

Exactly. This systems avg profitable trade is less than 4 pips and trade expectancy is 1.5 pips. Thats not scalable and even a 50k investment could already distort the perfromance for the worse due to liquidity limitations. The DD would get higher and profits would be lower which means Calmar ratio is going to suffer. Hedge funds are trading billions and this system is definitely not something they would ever use, it would not even be profitable.


So you are trying to tell us that slippage caused by liquidity doesnt matter if you trade 5k or 500k? That is simply not true. Ask anyone who dealt with small and large accounts and they will tell you that there is no way performance is the same. Compare a small account to a large one and tell me entries/exits are the same. There are always differences, I have experienced it myself when I was stupid enough to invest with some scalper. The small accounts were doing very well but my account which was much larger looked like a completely different strategy. In the end everything came crashing down because the trader had a large AUM so the whole strategy suffered and started to bleed money because of it. I was lucky I got out early and only had a moderate loss.

And whats your point about your account last year being half ow what it is now? Your account size is 4k now. I am talking about larger deposits, 2k or 4k is basically the same so of course you will get the same results.

Looking at your trading history its just a matter of time before you get in a high DD. It may take a while before it happens but it will happen. I mean your trade sizes are usually pretty normal but from time to time your leverage explodes to 1:100 on a single trade to offset the loss. What do you think will happen when one of those trades goes against you? There will be a 15% DD in 1 day and your avg monthly profit will go to 1.5%. And do you think a 1M account you would be allowed to open a trade with 1000 lots and get the same entry and exit price? Come on mate, thats just silly. You cant really believe what you are saying. This strategy would only work on small accounts and even number of those is limited.


Right now you are holding a buy on EurChf for a couple of days and its 1.7% in loss. If it goest down another 1.5% you will close it and open a huge sell EurChf with a leverage of minimum 1:50. Thats basically the system. Scalping with correctional trades to offset the loss when it happens. Recipe for unavoidable disaster. Just give it time, it is coming.


OutsideTheBoxHK
May 03 2018 at 06:25
129 postów
SureProfitFX posted:
takechance posted:
ronin75 posted:
takechance posted:
SureProfitFX posted:
Here is my account.

I don't know if this is profitable due to the small amount of capital involve.

But so far I am happy with the performance of this account.

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/SureProfitFX/sureprofit-oanda/2056616

106 trades and 106 wins?? Interesting ;)

18.04.2017 19:01 09.06.2017 02:37 GBPUSD Sell 1.27675 1.27545 13.0 1.30 51d 0.15%
if you wait 51 days to make 15 pips you can do this as well ..


Well said. LOL


Please note that my first entry are always closed at profit near to break even. The trade on the stated date is my first entry trade.

Its common on my first entry.


No answer from this provider to ask whether he is still trading.
Did account suffer huge drawdown when he wouldn't close losing trades?
Was at 15% drawdown at the time when he last updated my Myfxbook track record thru his MT4 platform.
hmmmmm..... I wonder why people do this? I guess they give a certain style a try... and then they realize it's not that easy.
A good consistent trader needs Risk Management.
Listed at Darwinex or Trade Copying (MQL5, SignalStart). Please vouch for my system. “Learn from your mistakes and do not give up!”
OutsideTheBoxHK
May 03 2018 at 06:27
129 postów
I have listed here before when I first started offering trade copying and PAMM fund back in June 2017.
Strategy is being improved progressively over time. Risk Management also being tweaked to obviously capture most profit while also managing total open exposure and the probabilities that open trades will stay above breakeven or open trades that are already in Drawdown will return above breakeven before 50 to 60 pips, which is the point when my losers using this strategy seem to not return from adverse excursion .... MAE/MFE.

So if you have 6 month perspective... with account over $5000... then both trade copying and PAMM fund are good options. With smaller account balances, then trade copying becomes more and more costly during periods of drawdown.
I have had a maximum of 135 subscribers, and now I have only 15.

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/OutsideTheBoxHK/outside-box-master-account/2087437
Listed at Darwinex or Trade Copying (MQL5, SignalStart). Please vouch for my system. “Learn from your mistakes and do not give up!”
LongVision
May 03 2018 at 06:38
254 postów
Niverto1983 posted:
Hi everyone,

Stable account since 55 weeks with 3.6% Drawdown. Please don't be blind with young high profit account (and thus big drawdown) but rather look for stable account and low/limited drawdown.
Last year (2017) I made +31% and monthly average performance of 3%/4%

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Niverto1983/niverto1983/2041045

I received a lot of private messages on how is it possible to copy my trades, you can do it on the following link:

https://www.signalstart.com/analysis/niverto-fund/32679

You can message me if you have any question
Happy trading
I checked your trading history in signalstart it looks like you are using GPS Forex Robot with recovery trade 20times of losing trading. It is worst than martingale. some day u will loose everything with this type of money management.
The market will trade through it’s path of least resistance .
Niverto1983
May 03 2018 at 10:36
11 postów
Sorry but you have it wrong, what you are missing is that my stop is in place with 3.5% DD maximum. My current position of EURCHF is still on going until it reached 3.5% and that'it. It will never go until 15% since my stop is set.

Hope it carifies

sjkhaushu posted:
Niverto1983 posted:
It is not correct.
It is scalable depending on the portfolio you have i.e on a 50K investment you will adjust the leverage to fulfill the exact same criteria of drawdown, profit etc...it will be the exact same performance on larger scale. As an example, my investment in 2017 was half my investment in 2018 and I will keep increasing my investment year after year.

I can tell you (true story), I have seen 1 million dollar account using this method.

I hope it's clear :)


sjkhaushu posted:
snapdragon1970 posted:
Any system claiming to be even remotely like a hedge fund need to look at what criteria they actually use.

Exactly. This systems avg profitable trade is less than 4 pips and trade expectancy is 1.5 pips. Thats not scalable and even a 50k investment could already distort the perfromance for the worse due to liquidity limitations. The DD would get higher and profits would be lower which means Calmar ratio is going to suffer. Hedge funds are trading billions and this system is definitely not something they would ever use, it would not even be profitable.


So you are trying to tell us that slippage caused by liquidity doesnt matter if you trade 5k or 500k? That is simply not true. Ask anyone who dealt with small and large accounts and they will tell you that there is no way performance is the same. Compare a small account to a large one and tell me entries/exits are the same. There are always differences, I have experienced it myself when I was stupid enough to invest with some scalper. The small accounts were doing very well but my account which was much larger looked like a completely different strategy. In the end everything came crashing down because the trader had a large AUM so the whole strategy suffered and started to bleed money because of it. I was lucky I got out early and only had a moderate loss.

And whats your point about your account last year being half ow what it is now? Your account size is 4k now. I am talking about larger deposits, 2k or 4k is basically the same so of course you will get the same results.

Looking at your trading history its just a matter of time before you get in a high DD. It may take a while before it happens but it will happen. I mean your trade sizes are usually pretty normal but from time to time your leverage explodes to 1:100 on a single trade to offset the loss. What do you think will happen when one of those trades goes against you? There will be a 15% DD in 1 day and your avg monthly profit will go to 1.5%. And do you think a 1M account you would be allowed to open a trade with 1000 lots and get the same entry and exit price? Come on mate, thats just silly. You cant really believe what you are saying. This strategy would only work on small accounts and even number of those is limited.


Right now you are holding a buy on EurChf for a couple of days and its 1.7% in loss. If it goest down another 1.5% you will close it and open a huge sell EurChf with a leverage of minimum 1:50. Thats basically the system. Scalping with correctional trades to offset the loss when it happens. Recipe for unavoidable disaster. Just give it time, it is coming.


sjkhaushu
May 03 2018 at 11:17
143 postów
Niverto1983 posted:
Sorry but you have it wrong, what you are missing is that my stop is in place with 3.5% DD maximum. My current position of EURCHF is still on going until it reached 3.5% and that'it. It will never go until 15% since my stop is set.

Hope it carifies

sjkhaushu posted:
Niverto1983 posted:
It is not correct.
It is scalable depending on the portfolio you have i.e on a 50K investment you will adjust the leverage to fulfill the exact same criteria of drawdown, profit etc...it will be the exact same performance on larger scale. As an example, my investment in 2017 was half my investment in 2018 and I will keep increasing my investment year after year.

I can tell you (true story), I have seen 1 million dollar account using this method.

I hope it's clear :)


sjkhaushu posted:
snapdragon1970 posted:
Any system claiming to be even remotely like a hedge fund need to look at what criteria they actually use.

Exactly. This systems avg profitable trade is less than 4 pips and trade expectancy is 1.5 pips. Thats not scalable and even a 50k investment could already distort the perfromance for the worse due to liquidity limitations. The DD would get higher and profits would be lower which means Calmar ratio is going to suffer. Hedge funds are trading billions and this system is definitely not something they would ever use, it would not even be profitable.


So you are trying to tell us that slippage caused by liquidity doesnt matter if you trade 5k or 500k? That is simply not true. Ask anyone who dealt with small and large accounts and they will tell you that there is no way performance is the same. Compare a small account to a large one and tell me entries/exits are the same. There are always differences, I have experienced it myself when I was stupid enough to invest with some scalper. The small accounts were doing very well but my account which was much larger looked like a completely different strategy. In the end everything came crashing down because the trader had a large AUM so the whole strategy suffered and started to bleed money because of it. I was lucky I got out early and only had a moderate loss.

And whats your point about your account last year being half ow what it is now? Your account size is 4k now. I am talking about larger deposits, 2k or 4k is basically the same so of course you will get the same results.

Looking at your trading history its just a matter of time before you get in a high DD. It may take a while before it happens but it will happen. I mean your trade sizes are usually pretty normal but from time to time your leverage explodes to 1:100 on a single trade to offset the loss. What do you think will happen when one of those trades goes against you? There will be a 15% DD in 1 day and your avg monthly profit will go to 1.5%. And do you think a 1M account you would be allowed to open a trade with 1000 lots and get the same entry and exit price? Come on mate, thats just silly. You cant really believe what you are saying. This strategy would only work on small accounts and even number of those is limited.


Right now you are holding a buy on EurChf for a couple of days and its 1.7% in loss. If it goest down another 1.5% you will close it and open a huge sell EurChf with a leverage of minimum 1:50. Thats basically the system. Scalping with correctional trades to offset the loss when it happens. Recipe for unavoidable disaster. Just give it time, it is coming.




Your answer doesnt clarify anything, in fact it tells me you havent got a clue about how your system actually works. 3.5% stop is only set when you have a trade with traditional lot size size. Your history shows that every single time after a 3.5% SL was hit, you opened trades with 1:100 leverage and no SL. That means 1 pip is worth 1%!!! If that trade goes 15pips against you, then you have a 15% DD. This probably already happened, thats why you dont update your account regularly so I suspect your DD stat is way wrong.

Apparently you dont even know how your own system works and I am starting to suspect its not even yours. You know nothing about how liquidity works and what effect is has on entries/exits as well. You havent answered even 1 of my quesrtions because you dont know enough to even have an opinion. People should stay far away from this system, the DD will go qay up eventually and its not worth it if the avg monthly profit is 2%.

Everyone should go and look at the history at Signal Start and see the crazy overleveraged trades. I mean he opened a 4.4 lot trade (with no stop loss) on a 4k account to offset the previous trade which hit his 3.5% SL. This system is a disaster waiting to happen.

kieran (snapdragon1970)
May 03 2018 at 12:10
1948 postów
sjkhaushu posted:
Niverto1983 posted:
Sorry but you have it wrong, what you are missing is that my stop is in place with 3.5% DD maximum. My current position of EURCHF is still on going until it reached 3.5% and that'it. It will never go until 15% since my stop is set.

Hope it carifies

sjkhaushu posted:
Niverto1983 posted:
It is not correct.
It is scalable depending on the portfolio you have i.e on a 50K investment you will adjust the leverage to fulfill the exact same criteria of drawdown, profit etc...it will be the exact same performance on larger scale. As an example, my investment in 2017 was half my investment in 2018 and I will keep increasing my investment year after year.

I can tell you (true story), I have seen 1 million dollar account using this method.

I hope it's clear :)


sjkhaushu posted:
snapdragon1970 posted:
Any system claiming to be even remotely like a hedge fund need to look at what criteria they actually use.

Exactly. This systems avg profitable trade is less than 4 pips and trade expectancy is 1.5 pips. Thats not scalable and even a 50k investment could already distort the perfromance for the worse due to liquidity limitations. The DD would get higher and profits would be lower which means Calmar ratio is going to suffer. Hedge funds are trading billions and this system is definitely not something they would ever use, it would not even be profitable.


So you are trying to tell us that slippage caused by liquidity doesnt matter if you trade 5k or 500k? That is simply not true. Ask anyone who dealt with small and large accounts and they will tell you that there is no way performance is the same. Compare a small account to a large one and tell me entries/exits are the same. There are always differences, I have experienced it myself when I was stupid enough to invest with some scalper. The small accounts were doing very well but my account which was much larger looked like a completely different strategy. In the end everything came crashing down because the trader had a large AUM so the whole strategy suffered and started to bleed money because of it. I was lucky I got out early and only had a moderate loss.

And whats your point about your account last year being half ow what it is now? Your account size is 4k now. I am talking about larger deposits, 2k or 4k is basically the same so of course you will get the same results.

Looking at your trading history its just a matter of time before you get in a high DD. It may take a while before it happens but it will happen. I mean your trade sizes are usually pretty normal but from time to time your leverage explodes to 1:100 on a single trade to offset the loss. What do you think will happen when one of those trades goes against you? There will be a 15% DD in 1 day and your avg monthly profit will go to 1.5%. And do you think a 1M account you would be allowed to open a trade with 1000 lots and get the same entry and exit price? Come on mate, thats just silly. You cant really believe what you are saying. This strategy would only work on small accounts and even number of those is limited.


Right now you are holding a buy on EurChf for a couple of days and its 1.7% in loss. If it goest down another 1.5% you will close it and open a huge sell EurChf with a leverage of minimum 1:50. Thats basically the system. Scalping with correctional trades to offset the loss when it happens. Recipe for unavoidable disaster. Just give it time, it is coming.




Your answer doesnt clarify anything, in fact it tells me you havent got a clue about how your system actually works. 3.5% stop is only set when you have a trade with traditional lot size size. Your history shows that every single time after a 3.5% SL was hit, you opened trades with 1:100 leverage and no SL. That means 1 pip is worth 1%!!! If that trade goes 15pips against you, then you have a 15% DD. This probably already happened, thats why you dont update your account regularly so I suspect your DD stat is way wrong.

Apparently you dont even know how your own system works and I am starting to suspect its not even yours. You know nothing about how liquidity works and what effect is has on entries/exits as well. You havent answered even 1 of my quesrtions because you dont know enough to even have an opinion. People should stay far away from this system, the DD will go qay up eventually and its not worth it if the avg monthly profit is 2%.

Everyone should go and look at the history at Signal Start and see the crazy overleveraged trades. I mean he opened a 4.4 lot trade (with no stop loss) on a 4k account to offset the previous trade which hit his 3.5% SL. This system is a disaster waiting to happen.


Complete madness what more can I say!
"They mistook leverage with genius".
Niverto1983
May 03 2018 at 12:26
11 postów
You show us that you really know nothing, you are arguying with a trading system I own since march 2017....
Starting 2018 I stopped leverage so as you can see the risk is limited in 2018.

I don't know what is your math background but let me clarify one thing, on my floating EURCHF if my stop is hit at 70 pips @2.2 mini lots = 154USD against 4500USD equity = 3.4%DD
And I am talking about closing DD and not floating DD as you may seem to refer.

And again read what I wrote, from 2018 when a loss is hit there is no other trade to open, I move to the next one, is that clear ?

Anyway what can I say, it is as if I am talking to a wall, my results is consistent so let's keep up at the end of the year right ?

I am stopping talking to you so please do the same.

Thanks



snapdragon1970 posted:
sjkhaushu posted:
Niverto1983 posted:
Sorry but you have it wrong, what you are missing is that my stop is in place with 3.5% DD maximum. My current position of EURCHF is still on going until it reached 3.5% and that'it. It will never go until 15% since my stop is set.

Hope it carifies

sjkhaushu posted:
Niverto1983 posted:
It is not correct.
It is scalable depending on the portfolio you have i.e on a 50K investment you will adjust the leverage to fulfill the exact same criteria of drawdown, profit etc...it will be the exact same performance on larger scale. As an example, my investment in 2017 was half my investment in 2018 and I will keep increasing my investment year after year.

I can tell you (true story), I have seen 1 million dollar account using this method.

I hope it's clear :)


sjkhaushu posted:
snapdragon1970 posted:
Any system claiming to be even remotely like a hedge fund need to look at what criteria they actually use.

Exactly. This systems avg profitable trade is less than 4 pips and trade expectancy is 1.5 pips. Thats not scalable and even a 50k investment could already distort the perfromance for the worse due to liquidity limitations. The DD would get higher and profits would be lower which means Calmar ratio is going to suffer. Hedge funds are trading billions and this system is definitely not something they would ever use, it would not even be profitable.


So you are trying to tell us that slippage caused by liquidity doesnt matter if you trade 5k or 500k? That is simply not true. Ask anyone who dealt with small and large accounts and they will tell you that there is no way performance is the same. Compare a small account to a large one and tell me entries/exits are the same. There are always differences, I have experienced it myself when I was stupid enough to invest with some scalper. The small accounts were doing very well but my account which was much larger looked like a completely different strategy. In the end everything came crashing down because the trader had a large AUM so the whole strategy suffered and started to bleed money because of it. I was lucky I got out early and only had a moderate loss.

And whats your point about your account last year being half ow what it is now? Your account size is 4k now. I am talking about larger deposits, 2k or 4k is basically the same so of course you will get the same results.

Looking at your trading history its just a matter of time before you get in a high DD. It may take a while before it happens but it will happen. I mean your trade sizes are usually pretty normal but from time to time your leverage explodes to 1:100 on a single trade to offset the loss. What do you think will happen when one of those trades goes against you? There will be a 15% DD in 1 day and your avg monthly profit will go to 1.5%. And do you think a 1M account you would be allowed to open a trade with 1000 lots and get the same entry and exit price? Come on mate, thats just silly. You cant really believe what you are saying. This strategy would only work on small accounts and even number of those is limited.


Right now you are holding a buy on EurChf for a couple of days and its 1.7% in loss. If it goest down another 1.5% you will close it and open a huge sell EurChf with a leverage of minimum 1:50. Thats basically the system. Scalping with correctional trades to offset the loss when it happens. Recipe for unavoidable disaster. Just give it time, it is coming.




Your answer doesnt clarify anything, in fact it tells me you havent got a clue about how your system actually works. 3.5% stop is only set when you have a trade with traditional lot size size. Your history shows that every single time after a 3.5% SL was hit, you opened trades with 1:100 leverage and no SL. That means 1 pip is worth 1%!!! If that trade goes 15pips against you, then you have a 15% DD. This probably already happened, thats why you dont update your account regularly so I suspect your DD stat is way wrong.

Apparently you dont even know how your own system works and I am starting to suspect its not even yours. You know nothing about how liquidity works and what effect is has on entries/exits as well. You havent answered even 1 of my quesrtions because you dont know enough to even have an opinion. People should stay far away from this system, the DD will go qay up eventually and its not worth it if the avg monthly profit is 2%.

Everyone should go and look at the history at Signal Start and see the crazy overleveraged trades. I mean he opened a 4.4 lot trade (with no stop loss) on a 4k account to offset the previous trade which hit his 3.5% SL. This system is a disaster waiting to happen.


Complete madness what more can I say!
LongVision
May 03 2018 at 12:26
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snapdragon1970 posted:
sjkhaushu posted:
Niverto1983 posted:
Sorry but you have it wrong, what you are missing is that my stop is in place with 3.5% DD maximum. My current position of EURCHF is still on going until it reached 3.5% and that'it. It will never go until 15% since my stop is set.

Hope it carifies

sjkhaushu posted:
Niverto1983 posted:
It is not correct.
It is scalable depending on the portfolio you have i.e on a 50K investment you will adjust the leverage to fulfill the exact same criteria of drawdown, profit etc...it will be the exact same performance on larger scale. As an example, my investment in 2017 was half my investment in 2018 and I will keep increasing my investment year after year.

I can tell you (true story), I have seen 1 million dollar account using this method.

I hope it's clear :)


sjkhaushu posted:
snapdragon1970 posted:
Any system claiming to be even remotely like a hedge fund need to look at what criteria they actually use.

Exactly. This systems avg profitable trade is less than 4 pips and trade expectancy is 1.5 pips. Thats not scalable and even a 50k investment could already distort the perfromance for the worse due to liquidity limitations. The DD would get higher and profits would be lower which means Calmar ratio is going to suffer. Hedge funds are trading billions and this system is definitely not something they would ever use, it would not even be profitable.


So you are trying to tell us that slippage caused by liquidity doesnt matter if you trade 5k or 500k? That is simply not true. Ask anyone who dealt with small and large accounts and they will tell you that there is no way performance is the same. Compare a small account to a large one and tell me entries/exits are the same. There are always differences, I have experienced it myself when I was stupid enough to invest with some scalper. The small accounts were doing very well but my account which was much larger looked like a completely different strategy. In the end everything came crashing down because the trader had a large AUM so the whole strategy suffered and started to bleed money because of it. I was lucky I got out early and only had a moderate loss.

And whats your point about your account last year being half ow what it is now? Your account size is 4k now. I am talking about larger deposits, 2k or 4k is basically the same so of course you will get the same results.

Looking at your trading history its just a matter of time before you get in a high DD. It may take a while before it happens but it will happen. I mean your trade sizes are usually pretty normal but from time to time your leverage explodes to 1:100 on a single trade to offset the loss. What do you think will happen when one of those trades goes against you? There will be a 15% DD in 1 day and your avg monthly profit will go to 1.5%. And do you think a 1M account you would be allowed to open a trade with 1000 lots and get the same entry and exit price? Come on mate, thats just silly. You cant really believe what you are saying. This strategy would only work on small accounts and even number of those is limited.


Right now you are holding a buy on EurChf for a couple of days and its 1.7% in loss. If it goest down another 1.5% you will close it and open a huge sell EurChf with a leverage of minimum 1:50. Thats basically the system. Scalping with correctional trades to offset the loss when it happens. Recipe for unavoidable disaster. Just give it time, it is coming.




Your answer doesnt clarify anything, in fact it tells me you havent got a clue about how your system actually works. 3.5% stop is only set when you have a trade with traditional lot size size. Your history shows that every single time after a 3.5% SL was hit, you opened trades with 1:100 leverage and no SL. That means 1 pip is worth 1%!!! If that trade goes 15pips against you, then you have a 15% DD. This probably already happened, thats why you dont update your account regularly so I suspect your DD stat is way wrong.

Apparently you dont even know how your own system works and I am starting to suspect its not even yours. You know nothing about how liquidity works and what effect is has on entries/exits as well. You havent answered even 1 of my quesrtions because you dont know enough to even have an opinion. People should stay far away from this system, the DD will go qay up eventually and its not worth it if the avg monthly profit is 2%.

Everyone should go and look at the history at Signal Start and see the crazy overleveraged trades. I mean he opened a 4.4 lot trade (with no stop loss) on a 4k account to offset the previous trade which hit his 3.5% SL. This system is a disaster waiting to happen.


Complete madness what more can I say!
Now I m 100% sure you are using GPS forex robot for trading this account.why are you sharing a trading system which is not own by you?By the way GPS forex robot is worthless robot which will definitely distroy your account someday.I posted some serious question on GPS forex robot in his thread but instead of giving honest answer he just block me and stop conversation absurdly.
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