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CESTRADES

Członek od Dec 31, 2012  29 postów C (CESTRADES) Mar 22 2013 at 15:25
efata_investasi posted:
CESTRADES posted:
TheCyclist posted:
At least one of my strategies have no risk at all, I can easily do 30% a year no problem. Which is about what Warren Buffet does.

So if you know what you're doing this is very far from gambling.

Problem is, who wants to do 30% a year ? More you want to do, more of a gamble it becomes.

True, everything in life is a gamble; esp when it comes to money. No risk no reward, if you don't play, you won't get paid. If I took 10k to a casino and expected to return with only 5k net, for me, it wouldn't happen. Why, cause casinos are pastime PLAY, if you do win big, coolers make sure you give back at some point. Trading is an art, and it has it's risks as with anything else. The market has no mercy, it don't care whether you are successful or not, the market is not there to take your money, it's just the market.
The difference being, you control your trading, win/lose, more so than with casinos.
I'm sure there are varying opinions on this, but for me, trading is an investment first, not a lotto/casino. Just like with Demos vs Real accounts. Most investors looking to recruit traders, look for profitable Real accounts cause it means they (traders) have a vested interest with their own money enough to take a chance. I have a real account also, and it's like a mirror of the one here for testing purposes, not something for fun to go ape, guess, play the luck and hope for the best.
I have traded for others based on a demo accounts for demonstration of what can be, not what if, and real accounts just the same. Don't blame investors for needing a real verified vs demos for business opportunities, used properly, demo accounts are a very valuable tool, not a casino game, for custom test purposes when used properly.
In closing, the only things in life you really regret, are the chances that you don't take!
'Live the dream'
C~


But on forex there is no market all your money is going to the owner of each broker you enter your money in, not the market so the broker just play as dealer on casino. You give your money to buy position buy/sell and you gain 'profit' from nothing just up and down graphics not because you buy euro then you sell it as usd than you get the differences between the two. Its all just the game dude. So trade is not the right word, because nothing you trade for.


Sure there is; Forex is just the instrument}'s you trade. I also trade stocks as a diversification. It also is an instrument}s; and your broker is like your distributor, as with/in any other business; or supplier. They get paid because they provide you with something that you can make money, or lose.
No you don't physically own a piece of property, But I once bought and sold a car for a small profit and I never saw it. How?; I knew someone looking for it, I got it, and transferred it. Sometimes, it's just that easy.
Einstein's theory of relativity is so true. Live by it.
Trading is like any other business, a chance, a risk etc; but if you know what you're doing, you can be profitable. I know, cause I do it everyday, except Friday's most times. :) I do lose, every trader pro or not does. management of the bottom line saves you. I've tried BooKoos of indicators/systems just to try and prove myself wrong in thinking I was crazy for not using any indicators, but when consistently you profit without them, you need to stick with what works, bottom line.
I don't use any indicators at all, candles S&R tell me everything that's going on. Indicators can and do give false signals, candles don't, you have to know them. If I waited for all indicators to be aligned/matching, I might not trade at all, rarely happens, but candles and S&R IS what happens. I don't care if it goes against any/all theories-rules, if it works, keep it. If it don't, keep searching until you do, you will be surprised how simple it really is :)
Best;
C~

"Live The Dream"
efata_investasi

Członek od May 29, 2012  18 postów Starlabs (efata_investasi) Mar 22 2013 at 22:51
CESTRADES posted:
efata_investasi posted:
CESTRADES posted:
TheCyclist posted:
At least one of my strategies have no risk at all, I can easily do 30% a year no problem. Which is about what Warren Buffet does.

So if you know what you're doing this is very far from gambling.

Problem is, who wants to do 30% a year ? More you want to do, more of a gamble it becomes.

True, everything in life is a gamble; esp when it comes to money. No risk no reward, if you don't play, you won't get paid. If I took 10k to a casino and expected to return with only 5k net, for me, it wouldn't happen. Why, cause casinos are pastime PLAY, if you do win big, coolers make sure you give back at some point. Trading is an art, and it has it's risks as with anything else. The market has no mercy, it don't care whether you are successful or not, the market is not there to take your money, it's just the market.
The difference being, you control your trading, win/lose, more so than with casinos.
I'm sure there are varying opinions on this, but for me, trading is an investment first, not a lotto/casino. Just like with Demos vs Real accounts. Most investors looking to recruit traders, look for profitable Real accounts cause it means they (traders) have a vested interest with their own money enough to take a chance. I have a real account also, and it's like a mirror of the one here for testing purposes, not something for fun to go ape, guess, play the luck and hope for the best.
I have traded for others based on a demo accounts for demonstration of what can be, not what if, and real accounts just the same. Don't blame investors for needing a real verified vs demos for business opportunities, used properly, demo accounts are a very valuable tool, not a casino game, for custom test purposes when used properly.
In closing, the only things in life you really regret, are the chances that you don't take!
'Live the dream'
C~


But on forex there is no market all your money is going to the owner of each broker you enter your money in, not the market so the broker just play as dealer on casino. You give your money to buy position buy/sell and you gain 'profit' from nothing just up and down graphics not because you buy euro then you sell it as usd than you get the differences between the two. Its all just the game dude. So trade is not the right word, because nothing you trade for.


Sure there is; Forex is just the instrument}'s you trade. I also trade stocks as a diversification. It also is an instrument}s; and your broker is like your distributor, as with/in any other business; or supplier. They get paid because they provide you with something that you can make money, or lose.
No you don't physically own a piece of property, But I once bought and sold a car for a small profit and I never saw it. How?; I knew someone looking for it, I got it, and transferred it. Sometimes, it's just that easy.
Einstein's theory of relativity is so true. Live by it.
Trading is like any other business, a chance, a risk etc; but if you know what you're doing, you can be profitable. I know, cause I do it everyday, except Friday's most times. :) I do lose, every trader pro or not does. management of the bottom line saves you. I've tried BooKoos of indicators/systems just to try and prove myself wrong in thinking I was crazy for not using any indicators, but when consistently you profit without them, you need to stick with what works, bottom line.
I don't use any indicators at all, candles S&R tell me everything that's going on. Indicators can and do give false signals, candles don't, you have to know them. If I waited for all indicators to be aligned/matching, I might not trade at all, rarely happens, but candles and S&R IS what happens. I don't care if it goes against any/all theories-rules, if it works, keep it. If it don't, keep searching until you do, you will be surprised how simple it really is :)
Best;
C~


Broker didn't get paid from trades i know this because my friend own broker like this so i know wheres your money gone if you play this game, you think when you buy euro than the broker just bought it for you? and if you sell it too he will do that too? no you very wrong dude, he just simply play as a dealer on gambling but on this one its called forex/futures/index not poker or black jack. I you gain profit than he gain loss and so the opposite happen if you loss.

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efata_investasi

Członek od May 29, 2012  18 postów Starlabs (efata_investasi) Mar 22 2013 at 22:51
No you don't physically own a piece of property, But I once bought and sold a car for a small profit and I never saw it. How?; I knew someone looking for it, I got it, and transferred it. Sometimes, it's just that easy.

You said this before but still you owned a car but you sold it even if you never saw it, and there's something to trade that was in form of the car, but on forex you never own it oe buy it even sell it simply just a game of lose and winning here. That is why you can trade in a second like that.

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efata_investasi

Członek od May 29, 2012  18 postów Starlabs (efata_investasi) Mar 22 2013 at 22:52
Ironman posted:
Well, to be honest, there were no proof there.

1. So, how long ago? And how did he create evolution (since half of the religions deny it)? Did he create just one planet, or is any other planet in this vast, huge universe populated?

2. You really need to read up on your general religion skills. Some gods are actually quite evil. Of course, most have stopped believing in the evil ones, but since evil is just a matter of perspective, that is probably a fate that will happen to most gods as the population gets smarter.

3. Really? And where would that be? Got a photo? Any sort of proof on that?
Or just blind belief from a book told from mouth to mouth because most couldn't read at the time?
And who or why? Do you go to hell for just not believing? Not knowing about hell? There are many differences here, dude.

You were an atheist? When did you stop thinking, and why?

Anyway, I hope God helps you with your trading, since you stopped using logic. ;)

As you said, this isn't the forum for this, since we discuss things that actually exists here. If you read more than one book, 'The God Delusion' would be a good choice. It'll probably even explain your 'miracle'.

Good luck.

Cheers!


1. You can believed on evolution even it just scientist who said it with no hard proof in there LOL. and you can judge years of God by years of you, if on bible said 7 years God make this world it doesn't means 7 years in human years dude. You think you so smart you you can understand what God thinking and doing dude? LOL
2. I didn't speak about satanic religion or others religions who worship others than God here you just want proof about God existence. If the religions who the creator is simply human who make that religion that out of this discussion dude omg don't play dumb like that, you know what we argue in here right? we already argue this much so stop playing dumb. I never studied about others religions and i never will moreover something like satanic religions.
3. I you want proof about something like that just try browse on Exorcism on Emily rose how you explain something like that? no way she made it up if happen like that, if evil is exist than God is too. Is that is not another proofs? there is another world besides this world dude.

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efata_investasi

Członek od May 29, 2012  18 postów Starlabs (efata_investasi) Mar 22 2013 at 22:52
Ironman posted:
Well, to be honest, there were no proof there.

1. So, how long ago? And how did he create evolution (since half of the religions deny it)? Did he create just one planet, or is any other planet in this vast, huge universe populated?




On Genesis bible it says God created this universe wheres the human can lives on day 1 and you still asking this silly question of course he created all that stars and others universe than milky way. On bible even says that God created all this world in 7 days and you will be judge it by human days? if you do so that i will know who i'm talking to a 'shallow man'.

I say this one more time you can't measure God creation, years or time based on human standard dude. On bible it never said about dinosaur but it said about huge animal and plant how come thousand years ago a human who just simply a prophet and no high education wrote like that? ho he knows something like dinosaur is exist? And who said about bible age is just 2000 years? you? 2000 years is from Jesus born not bible.

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CESTRADES

Członek od Dec 31, 2012  29 postów C (CESTRADES) Mar 23 2013 at 04:49
efata_investasi posted:
CESTRADES posted:
efata_investasi posted:
CESTRADES posted:
TheCyclist posted:
At least one of my strategies have no risk at all, I can easily do 30% a year no problem. Which is about what Warren Buffet does.

So if you know what you're doing this is very far from gambling.

Problem is, who wants to do 30% a year ? More you want to do, more of a gamble it becomes.

True, everything in life is a gamble; esp when it comes to money. No risk no reward, if you don't play, you won't get paid. If I took 10k to a casino and expected to return with only 5k net, for me, it wouldn't happen. Why, cause casinos are pastime PLAY, if you do win big, coolers make sure you give back at some point. Trading is an art, and it has it's risks as with anything else. The market has no mercy, it don't care whether you are successful or not, the market is not there to take your money, it's just the market.
The difference being, you control your trading, win/lose, more so than with casinos.
I'm sure there are varying opinions on this, but for me, trading is an investment first, not a lotto/casino. Just like with Demos vs Real accounts. Most investors looking to recruit traders, look for profitable Real accounts cause it means they (traders) have a vested interest with their own money enough to take a chance. I have a real account also, and it's like a mirror of the one here for testing purposes, not something for fun to go ape, guess, play the luck and hope for the best.
I have traded for others based on a demo accounts for demonstration of what can be, not what if, and real accounts just the same. Don't blame investors for needing a real verified vs demos for business opportunities, used properly, demo accounts are a very valuable tool, not a casino game, for custom test purposes when used properly.
In closing, the only things in life you really regret, are the chances that you don't take!
'Live the dream'
C~


But on forex there is no market all your money is going to the owner of each broker you enter your money in, not the market so the broker just play as dealer on casino. You give your money to buy position buy/sell and you gain 'profit' from nothing just up and down graphics not because you buy euro then you sell it as usd than you get the differences between the two. Its all just the game dude. So trade is not the right word, because nothing you trade for.


Sure there is; Forex is just the instrument}'s you trade. I also trade stocks as a diversification. It also is an instrument}s; and your broker is like your distributor, as with/in any other business; or supplier. They get paid because they provide you with something that you can make money, or lose.
No you don't physically own a piece of property, But I once bought and sold a car for a small profit and I never saw it. How?; I knew someone looking for it, I got it, and transferred it. Sometimes, it's just that easy.
Einstein's theory of relativity is so true. Live by it.
Trading is like any other business, a chance, a risk etc; but if you know what you're doing, you can be profitable. I know, cause I do it everyday, except Friday's most times. :) I do lose, every trader pro or not does. management of the bottom line saves you. I've tried BooKoos of indicators/systems just to try and prove myself wrong in thinking I was crazy for not using any indicators, but when consistently you profit without them, you need to stick with what works, bottom line.
I don't use any indicators at all, candles S&R tell me everything that's going on. Indicators can and do give false signals, candles don't, you have to know them. If I waited for all indicators to be aligned/matching, I might not trade at all, rarely happens, but candles and S&R IS what happens. I don't care if it goes against any/all theories-rules, if it works, keep it. If it don't, keep searching until you do, you will be surprised how simple it really is :)
Best;
C~


Broker didn't get paid from trades i know this because my friend own broker like this so i know wheres your money gone if you play this game, you think when you buy euro than the broker just bought it for you? and if you sell it too he will do that too? no you very wrong dude, he just simply play as a dealer on gambling but on this one its called forex/futures/index not poker or black jack. I you gain profit than he gain loss and so the opposite happen if you loss.

If that were the case, then nobody would profit from trading, everybody would be ticked off and the brokers would be out of business, the industry would not exist and we wouldn't be able to withdraw the funds. Laws prohibit brokers from scamming traders for their own benefit and several have got busted in the past. Much better regulation now in the US. Where are you from sir? Do you profit any from your trading? Not sure I'm following where you are coming from.

"Live The Dream"
Ironman

Członek od Oct 12, 2012  70 postów Ironman Mar 23 2013 at 07:14
efata_investasi posted:


1. You can believed on evolution even it just scientist who said it with no hard proof in there LOL. and you can judge years of God by years of you, if on bible said 7 years God make this world it doesn't means 7 years in human years dude. You think you so smart you you can understand what God thinking and doing dude? LOL
2. I didn't speak about satanic religion or others religions who worship others than God here you just want proof about God existence. If the religions who the creator is simply human who make that religion that out of this discussion dude omg don't play dumb like that, you know what we argue in here right? we already argue this much so stop playing dumb. I never studied about others religions and i never will moreover something like satanic religions.
3. I you want proof about something like that just try browse on Exorcism on Emily rose how you explain something like that? no way she made it up if happen like that, if evil is exist than God is too. Is that is not another proofs? there is another world besides this world dude.



Agreed that Evolution isnt 100% proved as of yet. But it is plausible and at least they are doing some research. If the bible was to set the agenda for today, the earth would still be flat, and the sun would revolve around the earth. And we would still burn people for witchcraft.

Satanic religions, now we are getting somewhere. Who decides what is satanic? And why not learn more about it, since one should always know the enemy? If you don't read up on stuff, you're left to the arguments about 'miracles' and 'blind faith'.

3 'no way she made it up if happen like that'. No, IF it happened like that, she probably didn't make it up. Did you notice the IF?

Just because it is written in the bible that the bible is true, doesn't mean it is.
If it was written in a spider man comic that it was true, would it be true?

The difference between you and me is that I don't believe in 2000+ gods. And you don't believe in (let's say) 1999 of them.


mam_datcom

Członek od Mar 28, 2013  14 postów mam_datcom Mar 31 2013 at 06:17
efata_investasi posted:
Is trading Forex gamble? because so many people often told me that forex is gambling, and if that is gambling then God will never help us with it right? because gamble is forbidden by any of religion in the world righttwist?, so there is more loser than a winner on forex business because God dont like this stuff lol if you say forex/futures is trading so my question is what trading definition? if there is stuff to buy/sell and involved money right? so forex/futures/index is pure gambling?


Forex Trading
It's not a gamble
Gambling is a 50% chance
Forex when you know the market you can get
90% to 100% success in the transaction
The problem is
Most people unprofessionally traders or gamblers

BellaVista507

Członek od Jan 19, 2013  251 postów BellaVista507 Apr 02 2013 at 18:28
Actually forex is gambling. Only because the definition of gambling is to take a wager on something in exchange for more then what you wagered. So if your wagering .01 lots or 100 lots. Or if your swing trading or scalping. We are all gambling.

Xenovia

Członek od Apr 17, 2013  6 postów Xenovia Apr 28 2013 at 06:50
anything that risks losing money to earn money is gambling no matter what

Lose in spoonfuls, win in buckets.
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