How much gain is realistic ?

Oct 21, 2023 at 17:26
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Uczestnik z Apr 04, 2023   23 postów
Oct 21, 2023 at 17:26
Hi Community,

with CFD brokers it seemed to be very easy to make 3 percent per day in average. Sometimes I made 20 percent, but instead to keep the win, I lost everything because of greed.
But 3 percent seems to be realistic.

What do you think how much is realistic?

Thank you
Uczestnik z Oct 24, 2023   13 postów
Oct 24, 2023 at 19:52 (edytowane Oct 24, 2023 at 19:57)
3 percent per day doesn't look realistic

With 3% per day in a year you make 120385%+, in 3 years you turn $100 in $174099242700+

I think 3% per week or 15% per month with low drawdown look like a great performance


From what you wrote, you seem to be an EXTRAORDINARY EXCELLENT trader, if I were you I would probably build a large capital and reduce risk as the capital grows. And after having a large capital I would look for 5% to 10% per month
Perfection does not exist, EVERYTHING can be improved
Uczestnik z Apr 04, 2023   23 postów
Oct 25, 2023 at 17:11
NGArmstrong posted:
3 percent per day doesn't look realistic

With 3% per day in a year you make 120385%+, in 3 years you turn $100 in $174099242700+

I think 3% per week or 15% per month with low drawdown look like a great performance


From what you wrote, you seem to be an EXTRAORDINARY EXCELLENT trader, if I were you I would probably build a large capital and reduce risk as the capital grows. And after having a large capital I would look for 5% to 10% per month
Oh no, unfortunately I am not a consistant profitable trader. Sometimes I make 5 percent in just 30 minutes. And then I give it back to the market.

Maybe I should try out the signals here.

How does your trading works?
Uczestnik z Oct 24, 2023   13 postów
Oct 25, 2023 at 17:25
I make 2%-5% of max drawdown on 5ers and FTMO prop firms

In my personal account I still don't have a long history, but my goal is 150% per year
Perfection does not exist, EVERYTHING can be improved
Uczestnik z Apr 04, 2023   23 postów
Oct 26, 2023 at 04:54
NGArmstrong posted:
I make 2%-5% of max drawdown on 5ers and FTMO prop firms

In my personal account I still don't have a long history, but my goal is 150% per year
What do you mean with 'on 3ers' ?
Uczestnik z Oct 24, 2023   13 postów
Oct 26, 2023 at 13:58
Sorry, I meant The5%ers
Is a prop firm
Perfection does not exist, EVERYTHING can be improved
Uczestnik z Jan 11, 2019   11 postów
Oct 26, 2023 at 19:19
The peecent per day or week does not matter. The important thing is consistency. If you make 1% per week then with 1:100 leverage you can turn this into 100% per week. But if you are not consistent then you will eventually loose. Focus on consistancy not percent
Uczestnik z Nov 12, 2022   7 postów
Oct 26, 2023 at 20:10 (edytowane Oct 26, 2023 at 20:12)
AlexanderSchatz posted:
NGArmstrong posted:I make 2%-5% of max drawdown on 5ers and FTMO prop firms

In my personal account I still don't have a long history, but my goal is 150% per year
What do you mean with 'on 3ers' ?

'5ers' and 'FTMO' are prop firms.

A prop firm is company which provides you with funds to trade, in counterpart you need to comply to strict risk management rules (e.g do not exceed 5% drawdown).
Uczestnik z Apr 04, 2023   23 postów
Oct 29, 2023 at 07:19
NGArmstrong posted:
I make 2%-5% of max drawdown on 5ers and FTMO prop firms

In my personal account I still don't have a long history, but my goal is 150% per year
Do you make your living out of trading?
Uczestnik z Apr 04, 2023   23 postów
Oct 29, 2023 at 07:22
NascarLover posted:
The peecent per day or week does not matter. The important thing is consistency. If you make 1% per week then with 1:100 leverage you can turn this into 100% per week. But if you are not consistent then you will eventually loose. Focus on consistancy not percent
That´s not true!
If I risk 1 % of my funds with a lever 1 and I would change the lever up to 100, then my risk turns to 100 as well. Only one trade in the wrong direction means to blow up my account.
Uczestnik z Apr 04, 2023   23 postów
Oct 29, 2023 at 07:24
FaniloRaveloson posted:
AlexanderSchatz posted:
NGArmstrong posted:I make 2%-5% of max drawdown on 5ers and FTMO prop firms

In my personal account I still don't have a long history, but my goal is 150% per year
What do you mean with 'on 3ers' ?

'5ers' and 'FTMO' are prop firms.

A prop firm is company which provides you with funds to trade, in counterpart you need to comply to strict risk management rules (e.g do not exceed 5% drawdown).
Thank you for explaining.
I know what prop firms are, but I didn´t know the name 5ers.
Uczestnik z May 06, 2023   9 postów
Oct 31, 2023 at 02:49
AlexanderSchatz posted:
Hi Community,

with CFD brokers it seemed to be very easy to make 3 percent per day in average. Sometimes I made 20 percent, but instead to keep the win, I lost everything because of greed.
But 3 percent seems to be realistic.

What do you think how much is realistic?

Thank you
Your estimation was totally correct as I believe, 3% daily is realistic and also really fine, just consider that it is 3% of your total risk not your total equity.
Uczestnik z Sep 07, 2023   3 postów
Oct 31, 2023 at 05:52
Be stable and not loose too much.
Make permanently profits.
I try to make per asset and day 0.3% profits and stop for the day.
Put the money in the pocket
Uczestnik z Dec 18, 2019   31 postów
Oct 31, 2023 at 07:45
i have a monthly goal for my self. its easier to manage and less pressure to perform. i ussually achieve my goal within the first 1-2 weeks of the month but i dont trade much. 5-10 trades per month.

if you want to win, be patient and zoom out your charts, if you have a daily goal, make it 10 pips a day not %
if you have a monthly goal, set something low 10-15% you will see how easy it is to make it.

a succesfull company makes 20% per year, so dont look at 10-15% per month as low, dont be gready and be patient.

you will waste your time and money trying to go big instead se a 2 or 3 year target instead of wasting these years tryign to go big.

speaking from experience, been there, done that.

ps. finding an excellent trade every day is extremly difficult if not impossible, you will eventually blow up

ps. my current system that you may see in my profile is a small account that i trade for fun (seriously but for fun and i have already withdrew my initial deposit so no risk is taken)
Uczestnik z Jul 31, 2019   8 postów
Oct 31, 2023 at 12:47
Too high targets will lead to burning the account. My target is ca 3-5% ... monthly with a strict control of drawdown. It makes sense if the capital is reasonable and gives you return high enough to satisfy your expectations (for live costs or at least nice extra money to your salary) If you have an account with low capital- no chance to be careful and not overtrade.
Uczestnik z Apr 04, 2023   23 postów
Oct 31, 2023 at 16:21
Electra0Green posted:
AlexanderSchatz posted:
Hi Community,

with CFD brokers it seemed to be very easy to make 3 percent per day in average. Sometimes I made 20 percent, but instead to keep the win, I lost everything because of greed.
But 3 percent seems to be realistic.

What do you think how much is realistic?

Thank you
Your estimation was totally correct as I believe, 3% daily is realistic and also really fine, just consider that it is 3% of your total risk not your total equity.
Whar is the difference between total risk and total equity?
Uczestnik z Sep 07, 2023   3 postów
Oct 31, 2023 at 16:26
My results are realistic and I practice it every day

Załączniki:

Put the money in the pocket
Uczestnik z Apr 04, 2023   23 postów
Oct 31, 2023 at 16:30
MawinTrading posted:
Be stable and not loose too much.
Make permanently profits.
I try to make per asset and day 0.3% profits and stop for the day.
Thank you Mawin for your friendly words and your hints.
I want to thank all the people witch answers me too.

I play something around and make experience. I have rented my first signal (ZA) and explore the EA-world as well.
Uczestnik z Apr 04, 2023   23 postów
Oct 31, 2023 at 16:40
nikosk0 posted:
i have a monthly goal for my self. its easier to manage and less pressure to perform. i ussually achieve my goal within the first 1-2 weeks of the month but i dont trade much. 5-10 trades per month.

if you want to win, be patient and zoom out your charts, if you have a daily goal, make it 10 pips a day not %
if you have a monthly goal, set something low 10-15% you will see how easy it is to make it.

a succesfull company makes 20% per year, so dont look at 10-15% per month as low, dont be gready and be patient.

you will waste your time and money trying to go big instead se a 2 or 3 year target instead of wasting these years tryign to go big.

speaking from experience, been there, done that.

ps. finding an excellent trade every day is extremly difficult if not impossible, you will eventually blow up

ps. my current system that you may see in my profile is a small account that i trade for fun (seriously but for fun and i have already withdrew my initial deposit so no risk is taken)
I have come to the same result as you. I couldn´t have said it better. ;-)
I am at a point, where I think 20 % / day is too big, but 3% is modest. - But probably I have to correct it much lower. But I am struggeling ...
It is good for me, not to make too much pressure getting rich. It is fun to learn new things in trading, instead of trading the same method over and over again.
Uczestnik z Apr 04, 2023   23 postów
Oct 31, 2023 at 16:54
MawinTrading posted:
My results are realistic and I practice it every day
Respect: 2.5 % /day!
If you only had 1000 in each account, your accounts would be 377 millions heavy after 2 years. Is that right?
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