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Broker refuse to tell me whether my trades on their A-book or B-book!?

Adribaasmet
Jan 29 2019 at 12:55
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togr posted:
It is the way that traders whose are profitable get their trades executed on market
Trades of the unprofitable traders are processed internally by broker and never send to market.
The broker asses who is profitable and who is not.
The problem arise at the moment when unprofitable trader makes a big profitable trade - such trade was not sent to market and thus broker has to pay it from own pocket - or refuse payment.

Unfortunately, its true! that’s the business model of market makers broker.
Lead Sense (senselead)
Jan 29 2019 at 12:59
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togr posted:
It is the way that traders whose are profitable get their trades executed on market
Trades of the unprofitable traders are processed internally by broker and never send to market.
The broker asses who is profitable and who is not.
The problem arise at the moment when unprofitable trader makes a big profitable trade - such trade was not sent to market and thus broker has to pay it from own pocket - or refuse payment.

Yes, but even traders that are profitable and the Broker has someone to cancel him out, even that trades are not send to the market..
So Banks never know and that trades never affect the market price!

In other words, only institutional traders, that trade very big amounts directly with the banks, their trades affect always the price!
Even then if one institutional trader does 100 lot BUY EURUSD and another institutional trader does 100 lot SELL EURUSD, guess what, the banks from mister Rothchild family gets commission/spread of 200 lot and have ZERO risk, because if one win he just takes the money from the loser and gives the winner without commission/spread of course!

Even if there is just one big institutional trader BUY 100 lot EURUSD and no one else trades, price goes down and he loses..

Their game is easy, risk free, legal and makes a few MILLIONS PER DAY!

I am a programmer, doing software for Brokers, if you have more questions let me know!
If you want to make profit and take money from the banks, choose a regulated and trust worthy Broker that sends trades to the bank, and stay under the 'radar'...
Price is King, Volume is Queen, all the rest are just story tellers!
Ansel
Jan 30 2019 at 10:55
10 โพสต์
Aren't ECN brokers all sending orders straight to the market. They should all be safe to use right?
vontogr (togr)
Jan 30 2019 at 11:52
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Ansel posted:
Aren't ECN brokers all sending orders straight to the market. They should all be safe to use right?

Even ECN brokers have A and B books.
mohasasa
Jan 30 2019 at 13:01
11 โพสต์
senselead posted:
mohasasa posted:
senselead posted:

Hello Mohasasa,

....... if the banks don't have someone to cancel trades out, guess what, they change price on the opposite side and makes money no matter what.

And you know what's the best? They don't need to explain no one why price changed opposite direction!

......

- I didn't know that, I thought LP hates this broker, cause he brings a lot of toxic flow into his plate and may be in the future the LP is going to cut his relation with this broker and no longer do business with this broker.

+ Thank you for taking the time to enlighten us.
mohasasa
Jan 30 2019 at 13:03
11 โพสต์
Ansel posted:
Aren't ECN brokers all sending orders straight to the market. They should all be safe to use right?

- You will know your broker when he process for you a big profit withdrawal. Then he is a good broker and vice versa.
Lead Sense (senselead)
Jan 30 2019 at 14:46
12 โพสต์
Ansel posted:
Aren't ECN brokers all sending orders straight to the market. They should all be safe to use right?

You should read this article:
https://www.financemagnates.com/forex/technology/market-making-stp-and-ecn-what-they-are-pros-and-cons/
Price is King, Volume is Queen, all the rest are just story tellers!
jamesgwyther
Jan 31 2019 at 07:32
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mohasasa
Jan 31 2019 at 10:52
11 โพสต์
jamesgwyther posted:
DO they have to tell you?

- have to tell you what?
Adribaasmet
Jan 31 2019 at 12:24
994 โพสต์
mohasasa posted:
Ansel posted:
Aren't ECN brokers all sending orders straight to the market. They should all be safe to use right?

- You will know your broker when he process for you a big profit withdrawal. Then he is a good broker and vice versa.

Absolutely true; basically brokers don’t make any issue during the small withdrawals; and we see the real image during the big withdrawals.
vedranm
Jan 31 2019 at 12:27
10 โพสต์
Why does it even matter what broker is doing with your trades. As long as you can withdraw your profits (or more likely losses!!)
Lead Sense (senselead)
Feb 01 2019 at 09:56
12 โพสต์
vedranm posted:
Why does it even matter what broker is doing with your trades. As long as you can withdraw your profits (or more likely losses!!)

You are right, thats not your concern what the broker does, as long as you can withdraw..
In the other hand its always good to know how everything works in detail to take advantages..
Happy Trading
Price is King, Volume is Queen, all the rest are just story tellers!
Christabelle23
Feb 07 2019 at 12:20
12 โพสต์
mohasasa posted:
Adribaasmet posted:
What is A-Book and B-book? Unfortunately, I’m not aware of this kind of terminology.

- You can read about A-Book & B-Book broker here:-

https://www.forexsignals.com/blog/2017/08/the-difference-between-a-book-and-b-book-brokers/

Great link, good read, thanks for sharing.
Adribaasmet
Feb 20 2019 at 07:26
994 โพสต์
Christabelle23 posted:
mohasasa posted:
Adribaasmet posted:
What is A-Book and B-book? Unfortunately, I’m not aware of this kind of terminology.

- You can read about A-Book & B-Book broker here:-

https://www.forexsignals.com/blog/2017/08/the-difference-between-a-book-and-b-book-brokers/

Great link, good read, thanks for sharing.

Yes, it’s very much useful on A-book & B-book; I also read this article.
kgiedrius
Feb 20 2019 at 09:51
4 โพสต์
Most of brokers have license to be 'market maker'.
AniLorak
Mar 28 2019 at 12:34
920 โพสต์
kgiedrius posted:
Most of brokers have license to be 'market maker'.

Maybe; I see a number of market makers are dangerous & create the trading environment unplayable when a traders start to make heavy amount of money.
ElliotCooke
Sep 26 2020 at 07:50
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A broker is the most important element in forex trading. Most of the traders lost their money because of choosing the wrong broker.
fXM123
Sep 26 2020 at 11:12
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The real broker does not pay profit from his own account there is what is called the main market and there are no levers except 1:20 in the best And also he does not care about or losses, concern is that you lose that money does not burn, it is in the accounts. Once you request a bonus in seconds you find it is not that they have paid real money to you
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Most of them use one strategy that guarantees them losing the customer It is clear like a child who carries things with him and falls and falls pregnant again and another falls out of it like this until she loses control and money
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Others are like FBS I want to know where the profit is because the commission is high

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