Martingale

Oct 31, 2016 at 13:27
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zack4
forex_trader_350643
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Aug 09, 2016   25 โพสต์
Jan 05, 2017 at 19:56
So far that method or form of trade is maintained after so much time, even after many losses.
yumpio
forex_trader_368735
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Oct 13, 2016   25 โพสต์
Jan 05, 2017 at 20:52
Xiantero posted:
Frankly speaking, I myself am against trading Martingale as it is clearly obvious for me that it bears unnecessary unjustified huge risks. Furthermore, forex market, just as the Universe, is constantly moving and changing. At the same time, everything that brings profit over significant period of time is right and has the right to exist.


But then although it brings significant risks is good? Is that what you are trying to say?
yumpio
forex_trader_368735
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Oct 13, 2016   25 โพสต์
Jan 05, 2017 at 20:52
@Xiantero There is something contradictory about this idea.
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Apr 01, 2016   45 โพสต์
Jan 05, 2017 at 20:54
@yumpio just nothing contradictory. My idea is that the result is the judge, so the final move says about everything. Running it in progress is rather dangerous, never forget it.
Do your best
edwige
forex_trader_379977
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Nov 28, 2016   27 โพสต์
Jan 08, 2017 at 07:40
@Xiantero Yes, the market will change constantly if you use Marntingale or not. And the risks exist if you use Martingale or not. The subject is whether you dominate the Martingale or the Martingale dominates you.
edwige
forex_trader_379977
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Nov 28, 2016   27 โพสต์
Jan 08, 2017 at 07:42
@Xiantero Also, I know of traders who have lost a lot of money without using martingale just because they do not have a good strategy.
So this is strategy and numbers my friend, and that depends on every trader.
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Dec 02, 2011   2 โพสต์
Jan 08, 2017 at 07:53
martingale required good calculation in my point of view. Also observation of market and some time manual closing of trade is also necessary. And need proper risk management. However it's risky no doubt but i like this trade strategy
chshahbazpk@
rob559
forex_trader_29148
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Feb 11, 2011   1916 โพสต์
Jan 08, 2017 at 08:23
martingale starts on the principle that if you toss a coin 1000 time there will be a 50/50 results average ,that applies for large quantity of tosses, but for smaller quantity that principle does not apply
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Dec 15, 2016   5 โพสต์
Jan 08, 2017 at 08:49
Martindale's were originally used as a gambling scheme and then put to use in Forex Trading at the end of the day it's still gambling. I'm a Forex Trader not a gambler that being said I'm going to have to disagree with crazy Trader I do believe there is a safe way to deploy the Martingale system the answer is simple stop doubling down on losing trades double up on winning trades zero loss. By the way crazy Trader excellent trading on your page : )
“Life is short, break the rules, forgive quickly, kiss slowly, love truly, laugh uncontrollably, and never regret anything that makes you smile. Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn’t do than by the ones you did. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.” Mark Twain
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Nov 21, 2011   1718 โพสต์
Jan 08, 2017 at 15:01
CrazyTrader posted:
Right now your martingale will work only if it opens trades on current trend... As global market is so trendy since US election if you do the opposite you will die in 2 hours.

Usually martingale opens trades on the opposite of the trend, that's why it does Boum at some point.

Just have a look at UsdJpy chart or EurUSd.

You don't need martingale to focus the trend:
Sell EurUsd & buy UsdJpy... Keep adding trades this way.... beleive the power of the trend. I see 116 on UsdJpy

@michaelinman11
If you disagree... that's only because you do not read all.
I quoted myself and it was my first answer to this thread.
=> 'Beleive the power of the trend on UsdJpy' => 1 month and half later.... market is still above prediction > 116.00

So I said you don't need to look for any martingale system. You simply need to add Long until it reaches target.
It's called pyramidage. We both talks about this technic.

However, It's not zero loss strategy as you said... it will only be if market goes straight to the point as it was the case for UsdJpy.
Trend doesn't take place when you want. If you decide to add to your first winner trade... and market starts to reverse, you will see how it can be a disaster if you bet the wrong horse at the wrong time.

By the way, thx for your compliment, yes it was excellent trading... closing immediately loss and keeping profit opened. So you have a nice equity curve (orange) always above your capital curve... Stressless trading. ^^

The new formula is Stressless trading + Riskless trading = Happy trading.

You guys can understand this formula... it is not maths. ^^
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Dec 02, 2011   2 โพสต์
Jan 09, 2017 at 07:26
michaelinman11 posted:
Martindale's were originally used as a gambling scheme and then put to use in Forex Trading at the end of the day it's still gambling. I'm a Forex Trader not a gambler that being said I'm going to have to disagree with crazy Trader I do believe there is a safe way to deploy the Martingale system the answer is simple stop doubling down on losing trades double up on winning trades zero loss. By the way crazy Trader excellent trading on your page : )

my point of view is different. how can we sompare gambling strategy with forex. gambling did not have fluctuation like forex. we can not give analysis either technical or fundamental. just a probability.
chshahbazpk@
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Dec 15, 2016   5 โพสต์
Jan 10, 2017 at 07:42
Crazy Trader you caught me red-handed. I didn't read the whole thread, just wanted to get your attention. I am new to talking on forums trying to get the hang of it.

Up until yesterday the only reference I had ever heard of Martingales had to do with a betting system I didn't realize it was such a popular mathematical term. Who'da thought Azuma's inequality
Brownian motion
Martingale central limit theorem
Martingale representation theorem
Doob martingale
Doob's martingale convergence theorems
Local martingale
Semimartingale
Martingale difference sequence
Markov chain
Martingale (betting system)
Wiki
“Life is short, break the rules, forgive quickly, kiss slowly, love truly, laugh uncontrollably, and never regret anything that makes you smile. Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn’t do than by the ones you did. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.” Mark Twain
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Jan 14, 2011   37 โพสต์
Jan 10, 2017 at 09:47
Hei
Anty martingale, look what i find what this trader do with transactions.... how it is possible? Can you explain that?
https://consiliuminvest.com/ideas?idea=3661-atak-na-nowe-low
https://consiliuminvest.com/ideas?idea=3653-kontynuacja-spadk%C3%B3w-2
https://consiliuminvest.com/ideas?idea=3632-nowe-do%C5%82ki

Now it is time for gbpusd
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Nov 21, 2011   1718 โพสต์
Jan 10, 2017 at 12:16
koval posted:
Hei
Anty martingale, look what i find what this trader do with transactions.... how it is possible? Can you explain that?
https://consiliuminvest.com/ideas?idea=3661-atak-na-nowe-low
https://consiliuminvest.com/ideas?idea=3653-kontynuacja-spadk%C3%B3w-2
https://consiliuminvest.com/ideas?idea=3632-nowe-do%C5%82ki

Now it is time for gbpusd

Nothing to explain... It's very easy to do it... I can do it in 30 seconds.
If you check properly, you will notice that we do not see on left pictures if it is a short or long trades.
Also you can set as many pending orders you want.
This picture is ridiculous.
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Nov 21, 2011   1718 โพสต์
Jan 10, 2017 at 12:17
Guys I told you to short GbpUsd:
Check this out:



Impressive... 15 Short trades.. with 1 lot each ^^

ไฟล์แนบ :

เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Jan 14, 2011   37 โพสต์
Jan 10, 2017 at 12:53
@CrazyTrader , can you set there you strategies or make idea everytime you change something or set new order....
I know screen everyone can do it, but make official publication
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Nov 21, 2011   1718 โพสต์
Jan 10, 2017 at 15:45
koval posted:
@CrazyTrader , can you set there you strategies or make idea everytime you change something or set new order....
I know screen everyone can do it, but make official publication

I have done it last year for 3 months
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=593831

I can't do this all year long as it takes too much time.

However you can subscribe to my charts... live signals
Click charts and then most viewed.

Regarding my martingale... so far I have trouble to set it up, but I will post when I can start order 2.
I'm trying in swing trading... but it takes longer as it is not intra day moves... it's much noise for me.

I have seen many traders reading the blog page on MMS.
Anyone is trying on demo account for fun?
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Nov 21, 2011   1718 โพสต์
Jan 10, 2017 at 15:50
michaelinman11 posted:
Brownian motion
Martingale central limit theorem
Martingale representation theorem
Doob martingale
Doob's martingale convergence theorems
Local martingale
Semimartingale
Martingale difference sequence
Markov chain
Martingale (betting system)
Wiki

Interesting...
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Feb 22, 2011   4862 โพสต์
May 29, 2017 at 14:56
togr posted:
CrazyTrader posted:
I deeply beleive the guy who brought the idea of martingale in forex was a guy who was working in market maker broker.
That's the smartest strategy they could find to swallow your account in 1 single day... 100% sure, they will wipe out you ^^

@CrazyTrader
It was a guy named Martin Gale :) He was not working at any brokerage:) You have to learn a lot yet.
LOL
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Jun 01, 2017   13 โพสต์
Jun 01, 2017 at 14:57
Martingale system suck so bad. I can't believe there are so many of them and so many traders willing to use them
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