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Jan 23, 2013 at 11:15
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เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Oct 28, 2009   1424 โพสต์
Oct 14, 2013 at 18:00 (แก้ไขแล้ว Oct 14, 2013 at 18:01)
Hi,
This all seemed a little odd to me so I thought I'd go and do some investigation.

This is not the reputed FX programmer Olexandr Topchilo communicating on this website.

Nor is this EA written or provided by him.

This is a stone cold scam being run and you should steer well clear of it.

I have spoken directly with the real Olexandr and he has confirmed this.

Vergil Bot I guess are the actual coders, which neither confirms or denies the quality of the EA they have on sale. I have not tested it.

Best regards Steve
11:15, restate my assumptions: 1. Mathematics is the language of nature. 2. Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers. 3. If you graph these numbers, patterns emerge. Therefore: There are patterns everywhere in nature.
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Mar 10, 2011   5 โพสต์
Oct 15, 2013 at 07:08
Hi Steve


Thank you for your message
Best regards
Leonis






เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Feb 14, 2013   22 โพสต์
Oct 15, 2013 at 20:18
im using a Ea which is very good on back test
and I have attached it to a live mt4 account:

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/MyMyEa/myeacreatedbyme/720326

give m some feedback about what you think guys thanks
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Dec 13, 2012   3 โพสต์
Oct 26, 2013 at 15:44
tintac posted:
I want to get copy of you EA. How can i do it? How much money to purchase your EA?

https://www.myfxbook.com/strategies/amgcapital-hft--zethgroupgmailcom/50366
The bad news is time flies. The good news is I am the pilot.
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Feb 14, 2013   22 โพสต์
Oct 27, 2013 at 20:15
sure I have emailed you just now via your site
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Dec 13, 2012   3 โพสต์
Oct 28, 2013 at 07:21
dealermanuals posted:
sure I have emailed you just now via your site

its not me that who want to buy your ea. you have to ask tintac. im selling mine also.
The bad news is time flies. The good news is I am the pilot.
EAguru
forex_trader_72918
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Apr 09, 2012   121 โพสต์
Nov 06, 2013 at 11:04
hi PEOPLE HALP !

i cannot load my PERORT to strategies 'The strategy hasn't been analyzed yet.' it almost 24 h from last downloading (((

what to do?
RedRhino
forex_trader_149646
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Sep 09, 2013   471 โพสต์
Nov 07, 2013 at 05:23
stevetrade posted:
Hi,
This all seemed a little odd to me so I thought I'd go and do some investigation.

This is not the reputed FX programmer Olexandr Topchilo communicating on this website.

Nor is this EA written or provided by him.

This is a stone cold scam being run and you should steer well clear of it.

I have spoken directly with the real Olexandr and he has confirmed this.

Vergil Bot I guess are the actual coders, which neither confirms or denies the quality of the EA they have on sale. I have not tested it.

Best regards Steve

Real Creator - https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Olexandr

BootLeg - https://www.myfxbook.com/members/bestuser
RedRhino
forex_trader_149646
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Sep 09, 2013   471 โพสต์
Nov 07, 2013 at 05:24
stevetrade posted:
This EA is showing 1.2 pips expectancy on a backtest, the forward demo shows an expectancy of 0.7 pips.

DON'T expect this EA to make any money on a live account, slippage on entry and exit will kill it, guaranteed.

Why do you think there are no live accounts shown?

Best regards Steve

What about this account - https://www.myfxbook.com/members/bestuser/vergil-day-trader-client/599915 - Expectancy: 8.6 Pips
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Oct 28, 2009   1424 โพสต์
Nov 07, 2013 at 09:38
RedRhino posted:
stevetrade posted:
This EA is showing 1.2 pips expectancy on a backtest, the forward demo shows an expectancy of 0.7 pips.

DON'T expect this EA to make any money on a live account, slippage on entry and exit will kill it, guaranteed.

Why do you think there are no live accounts shown?

Best regards Steve

What about this account - https://www.myfxbook.com/members/bestuser/vergil-day-trader-client/599915 - Expectancy: 8.6 Pips

That's a different EA.
11:15, restate my assumptions: 1. Mathematics is the language of nature. 2. Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers. 3. If you graph these numbers, patterns emerge. Therefore: There are patterns everywhere in nature.
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Oct 28, 2009   1424 โพสต์
Nov 07, 2013 at 09:39
RedRhino posted:
stevetrade posted:
Hi,
This all seemed a little odd to me so I thought I'd go and do some investigation.

This is not the reputed FX programmer Olexandr Topchilo communicating on this website.

Nor is this EA written or provided by him.

This is a stone cold scam being run and you should steer well clear of it.

I have spoken directly with the real Olexandr and he has confirmed this.

Vergil Bot I guess are the actual coders, which neither confirms or denies the quality of the EA they have on sale. I have not tested it.

Best regards Steve

Real Creator - https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Olexandr

BootLeg - https://www.myfxbook.com/members/bestuser

Happy to provide email transcripts if you want. The Olexandr profile is not Olexandr Topchylo. He's not even in the Forex business anymore.
11:15, restate my assumptions: 1. Mathematics is the language of nature. 2. Everything around us can be represented and understood through numbers. 3. If you graph these numbers, patterns emerge. Therefore: There are patterns everywhere in nature.
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Mar 01, 2012   2 โพสต์
Nov 10, 2013 at 21:39
You sent me a link that shows trade history. You insisted that those trades in the history section of https://www.myfxbook.com/members/mysys/vergil-day-trader/639667 were for U.S. forex traders who opened accounts with RoboForex (New Zealand Broker) at 1:500 leverage.

First, www.myfxbook.com is a very reputable third party company. They verify that the trades are not fabricated. You are listed #1 performer right now with www.myfxbook.com. That’s “why” I trusted you and bought your product. However, if you look very carefully at the link you provided, there are so many discrepancies between the chart and the trade history. This is very unusual. Please click on drawdown button of the chart. It shows that you lost 22.4% on 7/16/13 and 20.78% on 7/18/13. However, history in the trading activity shows you only lost 0.04% and no loss on 7/18/13. Also, Gain in Stats shows +331.02% but then Abs. Gain is +1050.69%. I might have to talk to www.myfxbook.com to find out why there are so many discrepancies.

Second, when you sold your product, you did not mention about 1:500 leverage and overseas broker at all. In America, I have to use 1:50 leverage. If so, the gain would be much much smaller than the gain that you have claimed it to be.
Third, I used the default settings as you asked me to do. However, if you look at my trade history attached, there were 4 trades from 10/1/13 to 11/1/13. Your link shows there were 15 trades during the same time period. On 10/9/13, I lost $18, but you never lost on that date.

In summary, you did not tell me that the gain was based on 1:500 leverage, which I cannot legally use in America. Your trades and mine were totally different. You provided me with a link that has so many discrepancies. Therefore, it is a totally different product than you advertised. I am not satisfied with your product at all.
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Mar 01, 2012   2 โพสต์
Nov 10, 2013 at 21:39
They have insisted that I was the one not following their instructions on settings. But they are the one who manipulates the settings for vergil day trader so that they could hide the losses. By doing so, they are cheating potential buyers on their trading performance. Actual users will suffer many losses, but they never lose trades as many as actual user's losses. Therefore, this product's performance is always good and totally different than actual user's. So, it is a totally different product and 'Significantly Not as Described'.
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Feb 14, 2013   22 โพสต์
Nov 11, 2013 at 09:25
im telling you forget all those rubbish expert advisors
just use the Ea which im using its perfect
get a 1 week free trial
email them
info at forex-ea-4u dot com

this Ea makes money everyday try it out for yourself you wont need anything else
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Jul 03, 2010   162 โพสต์
Nov 16, 2013 at 13:58
He doesnt show any live account. This type of EAs never work in real account.. He manufature only 10 copies. After that the manufucturing capcity ends.. lol.

เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Jul 03, 2010   162 โพสต์
Nov 16, 2013 at 13:58
dealermanuals posted:
im telling you forget all those rubbish expert advisors
just use the Ea which im using its perfect
get a 1 week free trial
email them
info at forex-ea-4u dot com

this Ea makes money everyday try it out for yourself you wont need anything else

The EA need to test at least 6 months in real account.. 1 week is nothing..

Show your real account... to make sure your EA also not 'RUBBISH'
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Jul 03, 2010   162 โพสต์
Nov 16, 2013 at 13:58
dealermanuals posted:
im telling you forget all those rubbish expert advisors
just use the Ea which im using its perfect
get a 1 week free trial
email them
info at forex-ea-4u dot com

this Ea makes money everyday try it out for yourself you wont need anything else

The EA need to test at least 6 months in real account.. 1 week is nothing..

Show your real account... to make sure your EA also not 'RUBBISH'
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Nov 20, 2011   18 โพสต์
Nov 20, 2013 at 05:01
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Jul 03, 2010   162 โพสต์
Nov 21, 2013 at 20:50
bestuser posted:
Hello Dear,

Don't get cheated anyone here is vergil Scalper EA Real account performance.

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/bestuser/vergil-scalper-v15/752622
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/bestuser/vergil-scalper-v12/756148
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/bestuser/vergil-scalper-v10/748959
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/bestuser/vergil-scalper-v15ns/757169


Best Regards,


Please be transparent...You hide many things... Hiding is dangerous for those who look
RedRhino
forex_trader_149646
เป็นสมาชิกตั้งแต่ Sep 09, 2013   471 โพสต์
Dec 05, 2013 at 09:04
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