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How to increase trading skills ?

kieran (snapdragon1970)
Oct 20 2015 at 06:20
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ForexAssistant posted:
the robot you bought might be already obsolete, then you need to reprogram it....or buy another one?

That's not exactly true, My one robot has been working well since 2008 but you may have to trade with a broker outside the US. The US government has ruined trading for US citizens at home. Even going off shore has become a pain for US traders but if you want to find gold you have to dig where the gold is and that means outside the US.

Trading is hard enough but trading in a manipulated market is financial suicide. The problem is that in the US, all markets are manipulated. I won't even buy stock in a company in the US. Once burnt, twice wary.

Bob

It's true you guys in the US get a raw deal on trading,here in Europe theres less control on many levels,you started your robot at a great time,no wonder it's working great ,you picked the bottom!
Ben Nathan (BenNathanFX)
Oct 20 2015 at 08:17
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rockiee posted:
hey , guys

how do you increase trading skills.

If you can afford the investment get some private coaching from a Fund Manager with some verified Live Trading track record and more importantly FCA regulation... and get on to a live account asap and start SMALL!

Finally try and think of technical s purely as a way to enter trades and manage them consistently - there should be a fundamental reason for your trades.

Those alone are the things that helped me and thanks to them my full time living comes 100% from FX
HOLY GRAIL: Fundamental Analysis to chose your pairs/direction, Technical Entry/SL/TP for consistent Management of those decisions
Bob LLewellyn (ForexAssistant)
Oct 20 2015 at 13:49
465 โพสต์
you started your robot at a great time,no wonder it's working great ,you picked the bottom!

We are talking about the forex market, there are no bottoms.
Devhuti
Oct 21 2015 at 09:50
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kieran (snapdragon1970)
Oct 22 2015 at 11:20
1947 โพสต์
ForexAssistant posted:
you started your robot at a great time,no wonder it's working great ,you picked the bottom!

We are talking about the forex market, there are no bottoms.

You want to go back to spreads of at least 400% wider than normal times?



kieran (snapdragon1970)
Oct 22 2015 at 11:20
1947 โพสต์
BenNathanFX posted:
rockiee posted:
hey , guys

how do you increase trading skills.

If you can afford the investment get some private coaching from a Fund Manager with some verified Live Trading track record and more importantly FCA regulation... and get on to a live account asap and start SMALL!

Finally try and think of technical s purely as a way to enter trades and manage them consistently - there should be a fundamental reason for your trades.

Those alone are the things that helped me and thanks to them my full time living comes 100% from FX

FCA regulation means very little to be honest ,Ive worked in the industry.
stevtheangle
Oct 23 2015 at 16:20
6 โพสต์
mavericks posted:
Hi there

As with every human endevour it takes about 10 000 hours of practice to become profficient.

For begginers demo demo trading. Swithing to live after about 5000 traders executed and demo account in profit.

Than after about another 2 years and another 5000 live trades you should be good.
That applies to the case that you want to trade manually, as you see fit based on marked condition.
You may also be that smart that you discover some edge very early on and keep doing it until perfect.
In that case it will take much shorter time.

Regards

is there an ea for trailing stop or stop loss? i dont get to be able to set the stop loss manually on every order, sometimes i make out of it and most times i lose, because i didn't set the stop loss.

ergo, a ea would be a tremendous benefit ))

M
stevtheangle
Oct 23 2015 at 16:20
6 โพสต์
is there an ea for trailing stop or stop loss? i dont get to be able to set the stop loss manually on every order, sometimes i make out of it and most times i lose, because i didn't set the stop loss.

ergo, a ea would be a tremendous benefit ))

Steve
luthfi_maung
Oct 28 2015 at 07:13
11 โพสต์
It might takes more than 3 months to train and improve your trading skills, more than 6 months to make a profitable trade so you may move to live account, and it takes forever to train your emotional control...
Ari Goldman (arigoldman)
Oct 29 2015 at 12:25
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Know how the markets work, read books, learn from the successful.
Bob LLewellyn (ForexAssistant)
Oct 29 2015 at 15:27
465 โพสต์
arigoldman posted:
Know how the markets work, read books, learn from the successful.
The rest of that tune goes,
start trading small, do well for months, the market has a hiccup and sets you back so you work extra hard, begin making money then you get blasted again and you lose thousands. You quit and get a real job that you are now happy with because it's constant and makes sense.

Or you can just buy a robot that works well and forget the emotional roller-coaster. Your choice.
Bob
JenalAripin
Oct 30 2015 at 12:21
10 โพสต์
Is not that easy to know and learn how the market works. I can say, almost every traders couldn't explain every single detail about the market.

Btw, try to learn and understand the risk of forex trading itself. Train your trading skills by hanging around in demo account (you might take more than 2 due to your trial and error in training process). Grab some trading arts and look for the one that suits you best. Get yourself a mentor (but don't depend too much to them) till the time when he doesn't wan't to train you anymore. This kind of training would likely takes couple months of your life till you're ready for live account. REMEMBER! Your first live account is your training ground of your trading psychology so don't expect too much on earning some profits in your first step on live account.
luthfi_maung
Nov 16 2015 at 07:49
11 โพสต์
ForexAssistant posted:


Or you can just buy a robot that works well and forget the emotional roller-coaster. Your choice.

Thanks for the advice, bob. But I'd rather train myself (even it takes almost forever to be a great trader). Robot may works well in certain market condition, but it's not forever...
Break Forex (breakforex)
Nov 16 2015 at 11:46
43 โพสต์
The most important thing is to practice the right things and develop the right attitude. Get a Mentor!
Andika_anjani
Nov 17 2015 at 08:29
10 โพสต์
breakforex posted:
The most important thing is to practice the right things and develop the right attitude. Get a Mentor!

Well yeah, it's recommended to find a mentor for our trading career. But be careful, not everyone are able to be a mentor.
goldjunge
Nov 17 2015 at 13:57
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1 - STAY AWAY from ( the magical combination of 3 , 4 , 5 indicators ) that will bring you a lot of money , cause that's BS .. they are ALL lagging ...

2 - STAY AWAY from Robots .. they can't work at anytime , at any movement of market ( trending, going sideways , after a news ..) . the real algorithm robots are in the big trading floors of the biggest banks and hedge funds , monitored 24/7 by so they will not screw up ... not an EA that coasts 500 or 1000 $ !

3 - Try always to take a zoom out ( depending on what type of trader you are ) ... try to know about the story of that pair through out the price action , so you can build later '' probabilities '' : what ever the price goes , you know what u should do, and how much you gonna risk.

4 - Don't forget the fundamental part of the trade ( don't relay on it , but take it in consideration : checking all the time

5 - Risk management is crucial trade only small ... risk only 0.5 to 2 % max.

6 - Begin only with 3 pairs .. 5 as a max .

7 - Stay away from those who claims to be '' gurus '' , they are only salesmen and poor teachers ... Learn from someone who already '' made it '' and now look for another goal which is being a well known teacher ..

Bob LLewellyn (ForexAssistant)
Nov 17 2015 at 15:20
465 โพสต์
One more thing to stay away from is a newbie that just became a member on Nov 1 20015 and in 2 weeks has all the information you could ever want to know.

I had him pegged as soon as he made a generalization ' Robots .. they can't work at anytime'. How disappointing to learn this after all this time. I have 2 robots, one has been in use since April 2008 and never loses. The other since 2012.
I am no longer selling these nor am I interested in discussing this with newbies that know everything already. Just remember that the advice you get on this forum is offered by kids with less on the ball than you have.

It's the 'don'ts' that give them away. A trader will tell you how to do something then prove why it works. The wanna bees just say don't do this or that because they are never expected to prove anything.

Robots are nothing more than an extension of the humans mind that created it. If robots never worked then no system of any kind would ever work because when someone designs a system for themselves, the first thing he wants to do is automate that system and go fishing. That is what I have done and what anyone can do so long as they don't go listening to all the defeatists that constantly saturate your mind with limitations.

There are robots that work, individual traders that know how to trade, investment companies that work. The only thing that one needs to do is find out which ones really do work and which is just BS. My advice for robots is try them out before you buy them. If the company selling the robots won't let you demo trade their robot before purchasing it, they already told you all you need to know. They got something to hide. Let the robot run for a month or two then look at the bottom line. You will not need my opinion nor anyone elses after that.

Bob
Ben Nathan (BenNathanFX)
Nov 18 2015 at 07:33
137 โพสต์
goldjunge posted:
1 - STAY AWAY from ( the magical combination of 3 , 4 , 5 indicators ) that will bring you a lot of money , cause that's BS .. they are ALL lagging ...

2 - STAY AWAY from Robots .. they can't work at anytime , at any movement of market ( trending, going sideways , after a news ..) . the real algorithm robots are in the big trading floors of the biggest banks and hedge funds , monitored 24/7 by so they will not screw up ... not an EA that coasts 500 or 1000 $ !

3 - Try always to take a zoom out ( depending on what type of trader you are ) ... try to know about the story of that pair through out the price action , so you can build later '' probabilities '' : what ever the price goes , you know what u should do, and how much you gonna risk.

4 - Don't forget the fundamental part of the trade ( don't relay on it , but take it in consideration : checking all the time

5 - Risk management is crucial trade only small ... risk only 0.5 to 2 % max.

6 - Begin only with 3 pairs .. 5 as a max .

7 - Stay away from those who claims to be '' gurus '' , they are only salesmen and poor teachers ... Learn from someone who already '' made it '' and now look for another goal which is being a well known teacher ..


This is the best response yet! Also get a mentor if you can - and make sure they tick the boxes - LIVE account verification that spans over more than just a couple of months , and make sure they are well reviewed - use Google, or FPA , dont rely on the reviews that they just provide you with.
HOLY GRAIL: Fundamental Analysis to chose your pairs/direction, Technical Entry/SL/TP for consistent Management of those decisions
kieran (snapdragon1970)
Nov 18 2015 at 07:44
1947 โพสต์
I trade one pair,Eur/usd the more you trade one pair the quicker you get to know some of its habits,different pairs behave differently,it makes no sense to begin with 3 ,but everyone is different,some robots do work but they have to be turned off around news events,I am talking about professional robots used by hedge funds,HFTs.etc.
JenalAripin
Nov 18 2015 at 07:54
10 โพสต์
goldjunge posted:
1 - STAY AWAY from ( the magical combination of 3 , 4 , 5 indicators ) that will bring you a lot of money , cause that's BS .. they are ALL lagging ...



Too much indicators means too much things to understand. The question is: do you really understand all of them? If you do, then it wouldn't be a problem to your trading process...
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